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Post by Christine on Oct 17, 2016 6:12:02 GMT -5
This is what happened roughly...VV's subs will provide more specifics, or alfi might be able to. Basically, Adele showed up at the store and Cristina overheard her asking an attendant for Ana. Cristina went over to take Adele down to Ana in the workroom. Cristina learned that Adele was there from New York with an opportunity for Ana, so Cristina tried to get Blanca to bring Ana over to meet Adele. Blanca was reluctant because Ana wasn't in the work room at that time (she was elsewhere ranting to Emilio about Marco, I think), but Cristina said Ana shouldn't miss this opportunity. So Blanca went to see Ana to tell her about Adele...Ana didn't want to meet with her at first (maybe because she planned to go to Aurora's funeral, I think?), but Blanca/Emilio convinced her to go. Anyway, later in the episode Ana met with Adele and they did a tour of the workroom, along with Cristina. Ana showed Adele her designs. Then Adele started asking about THE red dress...she described it in detail, and said she wanted to see it. When Ana realized the dress Adele wanted to see, she got emotional, said she didn't have it, I think, because then Cristina piped up and said she had the dress and would bring it. Cristina went off somewhere and then came back with the dress, which she gave to Ana...they had words, Ana became extremely emotional, started crying, and then rushed off with the dress. Cristina was left alone with Adele and tried to explain Ana's behavior by saying that the dress was very important because of its connection to the former director. Adele said she knew that. Cristina continued by talking about Alberto's death, and Adele became confused and said that Alberto isn't dead. Cristina was stunned. In the previews, Cristina has a business card for Silk in New York and she's shown picking up the phone. Then there's another scene where she gets mad at Carlos for hiding the letters, and she slaps him. Do you speak spanish? because if you don't, that's a kind of superpower you have, wow  I'm adding just a couple of things, first, it seemed like Ana was unconsciously trying to not know about Alberto status because if she had her way, it would have been impossible a meeting with the mysterious New Yorker, and it was her uncle first and then Cristina who convinced her to meet Adele. And second, in the advance Adele tells Cristina how Alberto was sending letters every month to Ana telling her everything he was doing. [ Alfi there's a interview with Christina on antenna 3 she's interviewing with Mateo magazine can you translate please thanks
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 11:15:57 GMT -5
www.antena3.com/series/velvet/ecos-de-sociedad/Ecos de Sociedad, number: 327 Price: 16.50 pesetas, 1963 Interviewer: Well, today the magazine Ecos of Sociedad comes back to the Galleries Velvet to know a bit more about Cristina Otegui, how are you? Cristina: Fine, thank you very much for asking me. I: We are pleased to see you fully recovered, after that severe nervous breakdown, how was your stay at the clinic? and, do you feel strong enough to start a new stage in the Galleries? C: Well, yes, i'm fully recovered, there have been years of treatment and to fight a lot to move forward, and, yes, i'm doing very well, very calm, very focused, looking forward to work, and to totally focus in the new masculine line we are going to launch in the "Galerías Velvet" and that i hope is a big success, thanks. I: Do you regret, Cristina, about the incident with Ana, do you believe that you could resume your relationship, at least in the professional way? C: Of course i regret it, it hurts me a lot to remember it, right now i can't understand what happened to me. I know i suffered a severe nervous breakdown, i had had personal problems, i was close to lose my daughter, and well... i don't recognize myself. I know it was terrible what i did, it's going to be very difficult to forgive, but well , i'm here to try to amend... my errors, to ask for forgiveness, to show people that i'm a new Cristina, that... i come very focused, and with the only hope to show that i'm the Cristina from before, and this was a chapter i prefer to forget. I don't know if Ana will be able to forgive me, i'm going to try, i would like... to recover the relationship we had in the beginning. Certainly, i'm going to do everything possible to make this happen. I: It's honourable to listen you saying those words. C: Thanks. I: I know it's to delve a bit in the personal level, but, from our sources, we know that the relationship with Raul de la Riva is not like it used to be either, because of past events. Do you feel strong enough to recover that relationship too? C: Certainly, as for me, effort and dedication are not going to be missed. For me, Raul de la Riva is a soul mate, lifelong friend, in fact our friendship was very important for achieving that Raul could work with us, here in Velvet. And well, i think that time heals wounds, and i hope be able to show to Raul that i'm still Cristina, his friend that he knew and that he can forgive. To me forgiveness is very healing, so... yes, i hope to retake our relationship. I: Let's speak about happy things... C: Please I:How has maternity changed life to you? C: Well, this is something i had wished from forever, it's the most beautiful that has happened to me in my life, the most important, my daughter is the reason for what i live, she has been the motor that has made me really fight, and to have a resolution to recover, to move forward, to be a mother that she can feel proud... and... for her i do everything in reality... my life right now is Cristina, my daughter, for her i live. I: Well, i think we got the headline. I would like to propose a very simple game. If we'd give you a blank sheet to draw a dress, your dream dress for a special event, what characteristics will it have it? C: I think that the question is very funny, but i have to tell you that, what i would do, will be to call Raul de la Riva, to design it, but maybe i would give him some clues, probably it would be a dress of taffeta, brocade, without cleavage, without sleeves , why not?, hmm, straight and slightly fitted. Of course, I would put a lot of attention and take care in the complements. I: Surely that our ( female) readers will love to listen your opinion, and to imagine this dream dress. Thank you vey much. C: Thank you very much.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 11:23:27 GMT -5
This should have been in other thread though? Christine your fault! 
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Post by Christine on Oct 17, 2016 12:06:35 GMT -5
This should have been in other thread though? Christine your fault!  😣 Agree
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Post by Lara on Oct 17, 2016 13:31:49 GMT -5
I watched the scene with Carlos and Ana on the phone and I *think* he asked her to live with him (don't quote me and my bad Spanish on that) she tenses up and says it's not a conversation for the phone. Of course he says he loves her and she doesn't say it back. There are so many troubling things about the Carlos/Ana relationship. Just looking at it at face value, excluding stealing the letters, it's an odd relationship. The first thing I always question is why would this young, successful, good looking pilot be so obsessed with a woman whom he dated a few months, who is in love with another man with whom she has a child and doesn't love him? Alternately, Ana is stringing him along for whatever personal reason, probably her own insecurities. One would think Carlos would have the upper hand because in 1965 Ana might have a hard time finding someone of his caliber (on paper, that is) who worships and wants to marry her like he does, given that she is an unmarried, working mother. I've never really understood the relationship from Carlos' perspective of why he is so obsessed with Ana. If a woman can't say she loves you after 5 years, than you have to look inward and ask yourself why you're hanging around and settling (Obsession seems to be the go to for the writers on this show). As for Ana, it's surprising she would string him along all this time and not allow his to move on and find someone who actually loves him and he can have a family with since he's always banging on about that. Even if she accepted his proposal and they married, it's depriving him of real love. She doesn't know he's an obsessive freak ala Cristina at this point. It's a parallel between them and C/A, but Alberto finally realized he wanted to be happy and thought Cristina deserved someone who loved her. Of course Alberto had Ana waiting in the wings, but the initial point stands that Cristina deserved someone who loved and wanted to be with her. I just find the entire Carlos/Ana/Alberto storyline ridiculous. If they were going to go in a implausible direction and make Ana do things out of character at least make it s good storyline.
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Post by Rita on Oct 17, 2016 15:14:17 GMT -5
Any chance the 2nd episode with subs will be up today?
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Post by Admin on Oct 17, 2016 16:27:22 GMT -5
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Post by Camille on Oct 17, 2016 16:31:50 GMT -5
I watched the scene with Carlos and Ana on the phone and I *think* he asked her to live with him (don't quote me and my bad Spanish on that) she tenses up and says it's not a conversation for the phone. Of course he says he loves her and she doesn't say it back. There are so many troubling things about the Carlos/Ana relationship. Just looking at it at face value, excluding stealing the letters, it's an odd relationship. The first thing I always question is why would this young, successful, good looking pilot be so obsessed with a woman whom he dated a few months, who is in love with another man with whom she has a child and doesn't love him? Alternately, Ana is stringing him along for whatever personal reason, probably her own insecurities. One would think Carlos would have the upper hand because in 1965 Ana might have a hard time finding someone of his caliber (on paper, that is) who worships and wants to marry her like he does, given that she is an unmarried, working mother. I've never really understood the relationship from Carlos' perspective of why he is so obsessed with Ana. If a woman can't say she loves you after 5 years, than you have to look inward and ask yourself why you're hanging around and settling (Obsession seems to be the go to for the writers on this show). As for Ana, it's surprising she would string him along all this time and not allow his to move on and find someone who actually loves him and he can have a family with since he's always banging on about that. Even if she accepted his proposal and they married, it's depriving him of real love. She doesn't know he's an obsessive freak ala Cristina at this point. It's a parallel between them and C/A, but Alberto finally realized he wanted to be happy and thought Cristina deserved someone who loved her. Of course Alberto had Ana waiting in the wings, but the initial point stands that Cristina deserved someone who loved and wanted to be with her. I just find the entire Carlos/Ana/Alberto storyline ridiculous. If they were going to go in a implausible direction and make Ana do things out of character at least make it s good storyline. Lara, judging from other post, it's said that Carlos is a good catch back in the 6o's. He good looking, has a good career and heccomes from a good background. My guess is that Ana is a challenge for him. Carlos knows he can have his pick of women but he wants Ana because she does not want him. He to is probably not use to rejection. In life it's a cycle people always want want they can't have. I'm anxious to see if Ana leads him on. Judging from her comments to Rita, she hardly sees him and I would really be surprised if she's slept with him. If he's waited in Ana for five years without any indication that she wants a life with him then he's in denial and obsessed. I would keep it moving if I were Ana. Alfi. Made a good point when she said Ana was honest with Carlos when she told him she did not love him. Carlos is not taking no for an answer. Also Christine made a good point about Carlos man handling Ana. I would be afraid of him. Those are not good signs. He should find love in someone who loves him back.
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Post by Canille on Oct 17, 2016 16:33:05 GMT -5
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Post by Camille on Oct 17, 2016 16:34:08 GMT -5
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Post by Staceylehua on Oct 17, 2016 16:39:34 GMT -5
THANK YOU!!!!
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Post by Texas on Oct 17, 2016 17:00:25 GMT -5
Thank you soo much!!glad we don't have to wait until next year!
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Post by Krys on Oct 17, 2016 18:15:18 GMT -5
Thank you so, so much for this! Your hard work is very much appreciated. <3 Ugh, Pedro. He's actually one of my favorite characters, but with the way things are looking in this ep, I'm sure that's going to change. I want only good things for Jonas. Follow your dream! I love Raul! I look forward to watching his interaction with Humberto. I'm again reminded how much I love that Raul takes crap from no one. He already verbally slapped Humberto, but I need it to happen again, lol. I have no words for Clara automatically assuming the new position is hers. And Marco? Ugh. I loved him at the end of last season, but disliking him now. I guess I should be happy he wasn't paired with Cristina on top of everything else, because that would've been really annoying.
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Post by Lara on Oct 17, 2016 18:22:05 GMT -5
I watched the scene with Carlos and Ana on the phone and I *think* he asked her to live with him (don't quote me and my bad Spanish on that) she tenses up and says it's not a conversation for the phone. Of course he says he loves her and she doesn't say it back. There are so many troubling things about the Carlos/Ana relationship. Just looking at it at face value, excluding stealing the letters, it's an odd relationship. The first thing I always question is why would this young, successful, good looking pilot be so obsessed with a woman whom he dated a few months, who is in love with another man with whom she has a child and doesn't love him? Alternately, Ana is stringing him along for whatever personal reason, probably her own insecurities. One would think Carlos would have the upper hand because in 1965 Ana might have a hard time finding someone of his caliber (on paper, that is) who worships and wants to marry her like he does, given that she is an unmarried, working mother. I've never really understood the relationship from Carlos' perspective of why he is so obsessed with Ana. If a woman can't say she loves you after 5 years, than you have to look inward and ask yourself why you're hanging around and settling (Obsession seems to be the go to for the writers on this show). As for Ana, it's surprising she would string him along all this time and not allow his to move on and find someone who actually loves him and he can have a family with since he's always banging on about that. Even if she accepted his proposal and they married, it's depriving him of real love. She doesn't know he's an obsessive freak ala Cristina at this point. It's a parallel between them and C/A, but Alberto finally realized he wanted to be happy and thought Cristina deserved someone who loved her. Of course Alberto had Ana waiting in the wings, but the initial point stands that Cristina deserved someone who loved and wanted to be with her. I just find the entire Carlos/Ana/Alberto storyline ridiculous. If they were going to go in a implausible direction and make Ana do things out of character at least make it s good storyline. Lara, judging from other post, it's said that Carlos is a good catch back in the 6o's. He good looking, has a good career and heccomes from a good background. My guess is that Ana is a challenge for him. Carlos knows he can have his pick of women but he wants Ana because she does not want him. He to is probably not use to rejection. In life it's a cycle people always want want they can't have. I'm anxious to see if Ana leads him on. Judging from her comments to Rita, she hardly sees him and I would really be surprised if she's slept with him. If he's waited in Ana for five years without any indication that she wants a life with him then he's in denial and obsessed. I would keep it moving if I were Ana. Alfi. Made a good point when she said Ana was honest with Carlos when she told him she did not love him. Carlos is not taking no for an answer. Also Christine made a good point about Carlos man handling Ana. I would be afraid of him. Those are not good signs. He should find love in someone who loves him back. Thanks, VV!! Camille, no doubt Carlos is horrible and Ana should never have allowed him back into her life given his violence. He and Alberto hated each, it's almost like a slap in the face of the latter's 'memory' that she would allow him near his kid. Unfortunately she has, so just looking at it from where it stands now, I just don't get it. It makes zero sense, especially from his end. She can be viewed as a challenge, but its been so long already and it's still such a nothing relationship. I really want to know what Ana will do too and I'm dying to know if she slept with him! I do believe he is exactly like Cristina, only a hateful, obsessed man would sabotage the woman he supposedly loves by keeping those letters and hanging around for all that time when it's clear she doesn't love him. I can't understand how anyone would want to be with someone for any other reason but love.
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Post by debmac on Oct 17, 2016 18:49:06 GMT -5
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