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Post by Lara on Oct 12, 2016 22:17:41 GMT -5
That's why coming back to Velvet was the worse thing she could do for herself. Once she processes it all, she'll revert back to form. If she can't have Alberto, Ana can't. I think that will be her thought process. I so wish they would have taken this whole thing in another direction. I don't for a second believe she will be involved in telling Ana at any point this secret. I'm just wondering if she will do some crazy stuff once Alberto actually does come back. I think she might go even crazier once she lays on him. My guess with the slap is that it's more about herself than Ana. Right up until he 'died' she still believed she had a chance at a reunion.
Good! My wish is that she'll dump him once and for all. I honestly don't believe she has ever loved him. She is just hiding behind that relationship but it's safe. I don't think they have much chemistry at all either. I know, I can't stand that uniform! I really just want Alberto back already, but I feel like it's going to happen the same as Adele, at the very end of the episode.
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Post by primusoars on Oct 13, 2016 0:10:46 GMT -5
That's why coming back to Velvet was the worse thing she could do for herself. Once she processes it all, she'll revert back to form. If she can't have Alberto, Ana can't. I think that will be her thought process. I so wish they would have taken this whole thing in another direction. I don't for a second believe she will be involved in telling Ana at any point this secret. I'm just wondering if she will do some crazy stuff once Alberto actually does come back. I think she might go even crazier once she lays on him. My guess with the slap is that it's more about herself than Ana. Right up until he 'died' she still believed she had a chance at a reunion. Good! My wish is that she'll dump him once and for all. I honestly don't believe she has ever loved him. She is just hiding behind that relationship but it's safe. I don't think they have much chemistry at all either. I know, I can't stand that uniform! I really just want Alberto back already, but I feel like it's going to happen the same as Adele, at the very end of the episode. I hope Cristina was rehabilitate from the sanitariums she was living before she came back to Velvet. So far her actions indicated she was. She was never struck me as a nasty person like Barbara but Barbara did influence her a lot at the time she was most vulnerable. Now she finally realize her father had major part in her phony marriage to Alberto and she is trying to set things right. I hope this is the storyline we r following, if the storyline goes the other way and she became vindictive again that will not be an happy ending. All the interviews we read so far all indicates a happy ending for the final season if Cristina became crazy again what kind happy end could it be for her little girl, no writer in the world will do that to the story.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 7:23:47 GMT -5
In the advance Cristina slaps Carlos, and by her words and actions we only know she is mad because he hid that Alberto was still alive. I still think Carlos is going to manipulate Cristina into helping him marrying Ana, because if Ana is married and in love with Carlos... he may even convince her that she still has a chance with Alberto, she obviously "handles" rejections really bad and after knowing Alberto is still alive, that's not going to be good for her recovery process. Anyway this second episode was a lot about building plots, a bit slow, but with many interesting things, once you english speakers get the subtitled version you are going to understand better what i'm saying
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Post by Krys on Oct 13, 2016 7:34:07 GMT -5
I actually really liked Cristina in this episode, lol. She seemed genuine. However, I agree that the Alberto reveal may undo any progress she's made. :/ I'm lowkey rooting for her to move on with her life.
Also, I normally love Pedro but did not like the vibe that was going on with Jonas when Jonas told him about the tailor job. Even though I didn't actually understand the conversation, I think I got the tone of it. lol
Right now (besides looking forward to the Alberto/Ana and Alberto/Mateo stuff), I'm most invested in the storylines involving Jonas and Raul. And I love whenever Ana and Mateo interact - true friendship ♥.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 7:37:22 GMT -5
I haven't seen the ep, how did it all go down with Adele? This is what happened roughly...VV's subs will provide more specifics, or alfi might be able to. Basically, Adele showed up at the store and Cristina overheard her asking an attendant for Ana. Cristina went over to take Adele down to Ana in the workroom. Cristina learned that Adele was there from New York with an opportunity for Ana, so Cristina tried to get Blanca to bring Ana over to meet Adele. Blanca was reluctant because Ana wasn't in the work room at that time (she was elsewhere ranting to Emilio about Marco, I think), but Cristina said Ana shouldn't miss this opportunity. So Blanca went to see Ana to tell her about Adele...Ana didn't want to meet with her at first (maybe because she planned to go to Aurora's funeral, I think?), but Blanca/Emilio convinced her to go. Anyway, later in the episode Ana met with Adele and they did a tour of the workroom, along with Cristina. Ana showed Adele her designs. Then Adele started asking about THE red dress...she described it in detail, and said she wanted to see it. When Ana realized the dress Adele wanted to see, she got emotional, said she didn't have it, I think, because then Cristina piped up and said she had the dress and would bring it. Cristina went off somewhere and then came back with the dress, which she gave to Ana...they had words, Ana became extremely emotional, started crying, and then rushed off with the dress. Cristina was left alone with Adele and tried to explain Ana's behavior by saying that the dress was very important because of its connection to the former director. Adele said she knew that. Cristina continued by talking about Alberto's death, and Adele became confused and said that Alberto isn't dead. Cristina was stunned. In the previews, Cristina has a business card for Silk in New York and she's shown picking up the phone. Then there's another scene where she gets mad at Carlos for hiding the letters, and she slaps him. Do you speak spanish? because if you don't, that's a kind of superpower you have, wow I'm adding just a couple of things, first, it seemed like Ana was unconsciously trying to not know about Alberto status because if she had her way, it would have been impossible a meeting with the mysterious New Yorker, and it was her uncle first and then Cristina who convinced her to meet Adele. And second, in the advance Adele tells Cristina how Alberto was sending letters every month to Ana telling her everything he was doing.
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Post by northboundtrain on Oct 13, 2016 8:40:08 GMT -5
That's why coming back to Velvet was the worse thing she could do for herself. Once she processes it all, she'll revert back to form. If she can't have Alberto, Ana can't. I think that will be her thought process. I so wish they would have taken this whole thing in another direction. I don't for a second believe she will be involved in telling Ana at any point this secret. I'm just wondering if she will do some crazy stuff once Alberto actually does come back. I think she might go even crazier once she lays on him. My guess with the slap is that it's more about herself than Ana. Right up until he 'died' she still believed she had a chance at a reunion. I also think she should have stayed away from Velvet and focused on raising her daughter elsewhere, but I can understand the impulse that made her want to return. I hope Cristina was rehabilitate from the sanitariums she was living before she came back to Velvet. So far her actions indicated she was. She was never struck me as a nasty person like Barbara but Barbara did influence her a lot at the time she was most vulnerable. Now she finally realize her father had major part in her phony marriage to Alberto and she is trying to set things right. I hope this is the storyline we r following, if the storyline goes the other way and she became vindictive again that will not be an happy ending. All the interviews we read so far all indicates a happy ending for the final season if Cristina became crazy again what kind happy end could it be for her little girl, no writer in the world will do that to the story. That's a good point. I actually really liked Cristina in this episode, lol. She seemed genuine. However, I agree that the Alberto reveal may undo any progress she's made. :/ I'm lowkey rooting for her to move on with her life. Welcome to the board! Yeah, I liked her in this episode too. She didn't have to push to get Ana to meet Adele or even go get the red dress...that she did shows she's trying to make amends, though, as you said, there's room for her progress to be undone. Not looking forward to that either...I've wanted a healthy/positive story for Cristina since last season. After she tried to commit suicide, I really thought we were going to get it, and then the stairs and scissors attacks happened. I can't tell you exactly what the words were (see my post to alfi below), but I know that you and I both got the correct gist of it because spoilers before the episode aired said that there'd be friction between Pedro and Jonas once Jonas announced that he wanted to be a tailor. Do you speak spanish? because if you don't, that's a kind of superpower you have, wow LOL! Thank you! I wouldn't say I know Spanish, though one half of my family speaks it, so I'm familiar with some key words and phrases and I'm good at hearing/picking out the words that are similar to the English translation (i.e., I knew Cristina was telling Blanca that meeting Adele would be an opportunity for Ana because I'm pretty sure I heard MV say "opportunidad"). Thank you for that, because I definitely didn't pick up on those details. So Adele does know about the letters. Someone needs to ask why he didn't call. I'm worried that's just going to be a plot hole.
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Post by Christine on Oct 13, 2016 9:00:03 GMT -5
That's why coming back to Velvet was the worse thing she could do for herself. Once she processes it all, she'll revert back to form. If she can't have Alberto, Ana can't. I think that will be her thought process. I so wish they would have taken this whole thing in another direction. I don't for a second believe she will be involved in telling Ana at any point this secret. I'm just wondering if she will do some crazy stuff once Alberto actually does come back. I think she might go even crazier once she lays on him. My guess with the slap is that it's more about herself than Ana. Right up until he 'died' she still believed she had a chance at a reunion. I also think she should have stayed away from Velvet and focused on raising her daughter elsewhere, but I can understand the impulse that made her want to return. I hope Cristina was rehabilitate from the sanitariums she was living before she came back to Velvet. So far her actions indicated she was. She was never struck me as a nasty person like Barbara but Barbara did influence her a lot at the time she was most vulnerable. Now she finally realize her father had major part in her phony marriage to Alberto and she is trying to set things right. I hope this is the storyline we r following, if the storyline goes the other way and she became vindictive again that will not be an happy ending. All the interviews we read so far all indicates a happy ending for the final season if Cristina became crazy again what kind happy end could it be for her little girl, no writer in the world will do that to the story. That's a good point. I actually really liked Cristina in this episode, lol. She seemed genuine. However, I agree that the Alberto reveal may undo any progress she's made. :/ I'm lowkey rooting for her to move on with her life. Welcome to the board! Yeah, I liked her in this episode too. She didn't have to push to get Ana to meet Adele or even go get the red dress...that she did shows she's trying to make amends, though, as you said, there's room for her progress to be undone. Not looking forward to that either...I've wanted a healthy/positive story for Cristina since last season. After she tried to commit suicide, I really thought we were going to get it, and then the stairs and scissors attacks happened. I can't tell you exactly what the words were (see my post to alfi below), but I know that you and I both got the correct gist of it because spoilers before the episode aired said that there'd be friction between Pedro and Jonas once Jonas announced that he wanted to be a tailor. Do you speak spanish? because if you don't, that's a kind of superpower you have, wow LOL! Thank you! I wouldn't say I know Spanish, though one half of my family speaks it, so I'm familiar with some key words and phrases and I'm good at hearing/picking out the words that are similar to the English translation (i.e., I knew Cristina was telling Blanca that meeting Adele would be an opportunity for Ana because I'm pretty sure I heard MV say "opportunidad"). Thank you for that, because I definitely didn't pick up on those details. So Adele does know about the letters. Someone needs to ask why he didn't call. I'm worried that's just going to be a plot hole. [ did you guys notice how quickly Christina got the red dress I wonder where she was hiding it ? I would like to see Ann and Christina sit down and really talk about how what both of them did to each other they both hurt each other admitting it will help both to move on . I believe Christina is the one that is going to tell Ann about what Carlos did Carlos is going to try to convince Christina to keep their secret but she will tell Ann
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Post by Christine on Oct 13, 2016 9:34:52 GMT -5
I also think she should have stayed away from Velvet and focused on raising her daughter elsewhere, but I can understand the impulse that made her want to return. That's a good point. Welcome to the board! Yeah, I liked her in this episode too. She didn't have to push to get Ana to meet Adele or even go get the red dress...that she did shows she's trying to make amends, though, as you said, there's room for her progress to be undone. Not looking forward to that either...I've wanted a healthy/positive story for Cristina since last season. After she tried to commit suicide, I really thought we were going to get it, and then the stairs and scissors attacks happened. I can't tell you exactly what the words were (see my post to alfi below), but I know that you and I both got the correct gist of it because spoilers before the episode aired said that there'd be friction between Pedro and Jonas once Jonas announced that he wanted to be a tailor. LOL! Thank you! I wouldn't say I know Spanish, though one half of my family speaks it, so I'm familiar with some key words and phrases and I'm good at hearing/picking out the words that are similar to the English translation (i.e., I knew Cristina was telling Blanca that meeting Adele would be an opportunity for Ana because I'm pretty sure I heard MV say "opportunidad"). Thank you for that, because I definitely didn't pick up on those details. So Adele does know about the letters. Someone needs to ask why he didn't call. I'm worried that's just going to be a plot hole. [ did you guys notice how quickly Christina got the red dress I wonder where she was hiding it ? I would like to see Ann and Christina sit down and really talk about how what both of them did to each other they both hurt each other admitting it will help both to move on . I believe Christina is the one that is going to tell Ann about what Carlos did Carlos is going to try to convince Christina to keep their secret but she will tell Ann poor valentine I feel sorry for him he was a victim of his mother and now his wife i like him every time that i see him I burst out laughing 😂 the way he is going to die is so funny 😂 i am laughing already and I didn't even see that episode yet 😂
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Post by Lara on Oct 13, 2016 11:26:08 GMT -5
I did and wondered the same thing. Lol probably just easier for the plot. Cristina can't see any reason where Alberto is concerned as we saw last season. I did see her scene with Adele and I do believe she was being genuine because there was nothing really to gain by her giving Ana the dress back. Unfortunately now that she knows Alberto is alive and well her obsession will come back in full force. I disagree that she will tell Ana, I do think it's possible she will eventually out Carlos. However, she was able to figure out Carlos was involved pretty quickly, so Alberto and Ana should be able to do the same. I always thought Carlos might even confess once Alberto comes back and he's confronted. At that point he'll know game over and won't care or he'll get to the mailman first.
I do feel bad for Valentin. I don't really like him, but he doesn't deserve to die.
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Post by eline on Oct 13, 2016 16:15:42 GMT -5
Just a crazy fan from the Netherlands, watched S1 and S2 on Netflix with Dutch subtitles, but S3 is not jet available. Very greatful i could watch S3 here with english subs. Just watched S4e1 with subs and can't wait now!! Thank you very much for all your effort to make it possible for me to follow Velvet, because in Spanish it wouldn't be possible. 👏👏👏
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Post by northboundtrain on Oct 13, 2016 16:47:13 GMT -5
Just a crazy fan from the Netherlands, watched S1 and S2 on Netflix with Dutch subtitles, but S3 is not jet available. Very greatful i could watch S3 here with english subs. Just watched S4e1 with subs and can't wait now!! Thank you very much for all your effort to make it possible for me to follow Velvet, because in Spanish it wouldn't be possible. 👏👏👏 Welcome to the board!!
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Post by Lp on Oct 16, 2016 9:31:23 GMT -5
When do you think you will be able to get the subtitles finished for episode 2?
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Post by northboundtrain on Oct 16, 2016 10:29:00 GMT -5
The subtitles are in progress. I can't give you an estimated time they'll be finished, but please keep checking back here and the links will be posted when they are ready. Thank you!
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Post by Lp on Oct 16, 2016 12:26:03 GMT -5
The subtitles are in progress. I can't give you an estimated time they'll be finished, but please keep checking back here and the links will be posted when they are ready. Thank you! You guys are the best!!!
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Post by jodgrl on Oct 16, 2016 13:19:44 GMT -5
I'm not able to view this link? Thank you for what you do. Much appreciated.😃
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