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Post by anayalberto on Dec 17, 2016 16:20:31 GMT -5
I am going to explode!
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Post by Camille on Dec 17, 2016 16:50:28 GMT -5
Yeah, I just rewatched the part where Mateo told him about his firing and he did say he got fired before he came to find him. I read it too fast the first time. As for the kids, it is creepy to me and they are trying too hard. They are soooo mature. I thought A/A was sometimes over the top in their younger scenes too. Mateo needs to end with another top level job. He was pretty big at the magazine, so anything else would be going backwards. Camille- to address your point 3, the show's over, so as far as storylines go, if he worked elsewhere, it wouldn't have any effect. I read that the fire was symbol of the end of C/A story and the rain was basically the tears of A/A reuniting, I saw it more as a rebirth. So I'm pretty sure Cristina really is done, unless they bring the show back or have a spin-off. I agree no MAS = no show. He was always the heartbeat of Velvet and truthfully they won't allow anyone else to step up and shine as much. I'm thinking Marco, who was really a waste in the end. Lol😄...Lara, you know me and my wishful thinking. I just don't want it to end. I thought I would put that out there just in case the producers surprised us with any type of continuation of the show. I thought Marco was going to be a different character in a positive way but he turned out to be a disappointment. I'm glad to see him go. In regards to Christina, as long as Christina has breath in her body and the show by some miracle resurfaced so would Christina.
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Post by primusoars on Dec 17, 2016 17:22:08 GMT -5
Yeah, I just rewatched the part where Mateo told him about his firing and he did say he got fired before he came to find him. I read it too fast the first time. As for the kids, it is creepy to me and they are trying too hard. They are soooo mature. I thought A/A was sometimes over the top in their younger scenes too. Mateo needs to end with another top level job. He was pretty big at the magazine, so anything else would be going backwards. Camille- to address your point 3, the show's over, so as far as storylines go, if he worked elsewhere, it wouldn't have any effect. I read that the fire was symbol of the end of C/A story and the rain was basically the tears of A/A reuniting, I saw it more as a rebirth. So I'm pretty sure Cristina really is done, unless they bring the show back or have a spin-off. I agree no MAS = no show. He was always the heartbeat of Velvet and truthfully they won't allow anyone else to step up and shine as much. I'm thinking Marco, who was really a waste in the end. The kids scene was kind of creepy I agree, no 5 years old boy will want to kiss a girl or being kissed. It is overdone and unbelievably unless they try to set it up for future spin off. Any future spin off about those kids will have Cristina in it, I am sick of her so I won't be an audience to it.
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Post by ladyfromcanada on Dec 17, 2016 17:59:41 GMT -5
Was Adele scheduled to act in episode 1 only? I'm wondering if Adele returns? In the "book" the story is from Adele's point of view so she is fairly significant to Alberto's past life or at least to the book and if they intend to draw examples from the book she would have some stake as to what happens to Alberto. Could she be someone who stops the wedding? It's odd that she just disappeared and no further mention of her anywhere on Antenna 3.
I also just noticed that indeed Christina is looking out the window watching Cris play so she is not in a sanatorium. Hopefully she's under house arrest!
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Post by sandy60 on Dec 17, 2016 18:28:56 GMT -5
Well than can get her arson if she admits to lol. And maybe. BarberA. Will do that. Huh. 😜
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Post by sandy60 on Dec 17, 2016 18:29:31 GMT -5
Thank lady's
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Post by .sandy on Dec 17, 2016 18:38:36 GMT -5
-who ever does the cast picking is wonderful at there job. This little boy that plays Alberto Jr. is beyond wonderful. I love him as much as his father. Will really miss this show.
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Post by Lara on Dec 17, 2016 19:28:10 GMT -5
Yeah, I just rewatched the part where Mateo told him about his firing and he did say he got fired before he came to find him. I read it too fast the first time. As for the kids, it is creepy to me and they are trying too hard. They are soooo mature. I thought A/A was sometimes over the top in their younger scenes too. Mateo needs to end with another top level job. He was pretty big at the magazine, so anything else would be going backwards. Camille- to address your point 3, the show's over, so as far as storylines go, if he worked elsewhere, it wouldn't have any effect. I read that the fire was symbol of the end of C/A story and the rain was basically the rebirth for A/A. So I'm pretty sure Cristina really is done, unless they bring the show back or have a spin-off. I agree no MAS = no show. He was always the heartbeat of Velvet and truthfully they won't allow anyone else to step up and shine as much. I'm thinking Marco, who was really a waste in the end. I'm thinking that they brought in Marco in case MAS couldn't come back to Velvet. There was that scene in season 3 after the scissor attack that Marco was concerned about Ana's well-being and when Christina wanted her fired after they found out Ana was pregnant he refused. Carlos would still have been involved but fighting Marco instead. Then Carlos finds out that Marco has a fiancé in Italy and could have caused problems. The ratings would not have been as good because MAS was not involved. This season totally surprised me...I wish we knew what made him turn against Ana. Did it start when Ana went to him to fight the changes in the workroom? Or did the Orteges rub off on him? I watched a little bit of the series MAS was in with Amaia (Barbara) where he played the part of "el duque". He just gave off this aura of sexiness and even though he was a gangster he was very gentle with her. I would have watched it more but I couldn't find a sub titled version. I am hesitating when it comes to watching him in Sense8. I want to see him in a romantic series again or a romantic movie. Now that he's back I wish they could have done a couple more episodes with him in it. As for using the "grownup" kids in a spinoff I wouldn't mind seeing that just as long papa Alberto shows up now and again. You've all said that Cris would be like her mom coming to avenge her mother. But what if she sees how pathetic her mother has become because of what she did and becomes the opposite of her mother. That scene in the airport was frightening for the little girl and the way she backed up just shows she's embarrassed. She visits Velvet out of curiosity and runs into Alberto Jr. He falls for her but she is too ashamed to let him know who she is. I thought Marco would be a protagonist in S4. I sort of knew he wouldn't be paired with Ana because MAS was coming back and they needed that showdown with Carlos, but I thought they might pair him with Patricia. There was a bit of spark between them as well last season. I was shocked that they essentially turned him into S3 Cristina, especially since he was so against her. Maybe he could have teamed up with Ana against the Oteguis. Marco and Ana romantically would have been interesting because he could have been a viable threat to Alberto, if done right. MAS really does have that extra something. He oozes charisma and I always liked the little things that seem improvised, like his head tilts, winks and of course his natural snort when laughing 😍 His uses his eyes a lot of convey emotions too. I think his real life personality translates on screen. I also can't watch him in Sense8, it would potentially ruin my image of him in Velvet. Velvet is the perfect vehicle for him. Too bad his return wasn't longer. I think it might be hard to follow his career going forward. He still seems to be in primarily Spanish speaking productions. If they aren't captioned, it will be very hard to watch. I do love when he speaks in his native Spanish, but I guess we have to hope for more English speaking roles so we can watch stuff he's in. Any Spin-off would have to have hot papi as lead. He is in his physical prime. He would probably be hotter than whoever they cast as his son. I don't know if Cris would necessarily be out for revenge. She seems like a smart girl and might realize her mother was crazy and created her misfortune herself, but she will be emotionally damaged for sure. I'm thinking Cristina will lose custody of her in the next episode. I would love to see her raised by Victor, which would turn her world upside down. To be honest, a spin-off of just Cris Jr. might be more interesting than having her return to Velvet and to be involved with Alberto Jr. She would be more interesting of the two kids in the future given her background. I could possibly even tolerate Cristina involved as long as A/A remain far away. Yeah, it's too much. I think during filming that was their thought process, but in a recent interview the producer said they abandoned the idea of the kids spin-off. They thought it would be too much to jump 20 years in the future and with a whole new cast. They've been saying a lot of different things though, so who knows. I'm sick of Cristina too, but she might be more tolerable if A/A were no longer in her orbit. I could see Cris having a lot of resentment towards her mother in the future. 😀 I was hopeful too, but I have to admit my excitement was deflated when they announced the live ending. They also keep reiterating that Velvet as we know it is over. They seem very wishy washy so you never know. For me, it's all about Alberto. Although, I'm shocked to say, a Cris Jr. spin-off might be interesting, just not with any Marquez. Plus, I feel like these childhood destined one true love is already done. Plus, it would be very hard to reconcile the two kids getting together later after all that's happened. I would rather just imagine A/A and their family living happily Otegui free after all those years. I mean Cristina did almost kill Alberto Jr. twice. Too strange for the kids to become a couple. Plus Cristina would flip again even worse, if that's possible. I've said this before, but I'm shocked Cristina didn't try to kill Ana. That seemed likely to me. Cristina will always rise from the ashes, literally and figuratively speaking. Lol Yeah, it is too bad about Marco. I am glad he is leaving too. I still wonder if and how they will get the Otegui shares. Maybe Enrique will just sell and leave with Patricia if he doesn't get jailed. Then she'll turn around and stay with Velvet. Lol I have to believe Alberto will right that wrong. I don't like Patricia too much, but it was unfair how Alberto blackmailed her out of her shares. Patricia is always getting screwed 🙊 I mean out of her shares and money. She won't even get Valentin's inheritance, but she did contribute to his murder. Cristina's shares will be tricky because she obviously can't come back to Velvet, but I'm not sure that anyone can take her shares unless she turns them over to Enrique and he sells. I hope she doesn't put them in a trust for Cris. Cristina should realize in a moment of lucidity that she and Velvet are toxic and just be done with it. I think she will be committed and not jailed, so the door will be open for a return if they go there.
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Post by Texas on Dec 17, 2016 21:08:24 GMT -5
I agree that MAS needs to star in another romantic show because that's where he shines! He was a total success in velvet and he should know that. Velvet was back on track when he returned and 4 million viewers saw his draw, he should do more love stories!! I read where he signed a 5 year contract with s8 but what if it's cancelled then what do they do? What will PE do now? Does she have any new series coming up? I know all of this was filmed in the summer and we are just now seeing it, butI will miss this show so much.
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Post by hopelessromantic on Dec 17, 2016 23:35:34 GMT -5
On the preview...I believe it was Carlos that called Alberto telling him,he has his letters..the ones he was writing from NYC..Hot damn!!!!this man is cruel.Alberto looked livid during the confrontation...just 😳 Wow. Also children are so reseilient..I saw little Alberto jump into his father's arm..while Alberto threw him up in the air and they shared a 🤗 hug.With his dad back in his life Carlos is a forgotten history..I can't wait to see that scene.
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Post by carlucc on Dec 18, 2016 0:32:53 GMT -5
On the preview...I believe it was Carlos that called Alberto telling him,he has his letters..the ones he was writing from NYC..Hot damn!!!!this man is cruel.Alberto looked livid during the confrontation...just 😳 Wow. Also children are so reseilient..I saw little Alberto jump into his father's arm..while Alberto threw him up in the air and they shared a 🤗 hug.With his dad back in his life Carlos is a forgotten history..I can't wait to see that scene. It Mateo's voice. I wonder if Christina got them off Carlos and kept them in her desk...in the last episode she took a letter out of her desk and ripped it open. Ana already suspected that she knew about Alberto being alive. I suspect Mateo then went to the postman to find out who he gave the letters to.
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Post by sandy60 on Dec 18, 2016 0:49:00 GMT -5
I didn't think 💭 i didn't think it was Carlos you called him I thought Alberto called him We will find out
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Post by debmac on Dec 18, 2016 5:01:37 GMT -5
On the preview...I believe it was Carlos that called Alberto telling him,he has his letters..the ones he was writing from NYC..Hot damn!!!!this man is cruel.Alberto looked livid during the confrontation...just 😳 Wow. It didn't sound like Carlos on the phone. I have this feeling Alberto probably hired someone to investigate and discovered via the postman that Carlos has been receiving the letters and I think the investigator paid the postman off as well to get the info. I think maybe the postman broke into Carlos' place and found the letters and called Alberto.
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Post by debmac on Dec 18, 2016 5:04:21 GMT -5
On the preview...I believe it was Carlos that called Alberto telling him,he has his letters..the ones he was writing from NYC..Hot damn!!!!this man is cruel.Alberto looked livid during the confrontation...just 😳 Wow. Also children are so reseilient..I saw little Alberto jump into his father's arm..while Alberto threw him up in the air and they shared a 🤗 hug.With his dad back in his life Carlos is a forgotten history..I can't wait to see that scene. It Mateo's voice. I wonder if Christina got them off Carlos and kept them in her desk...in the last episode she took a letter out of her desk and ripped it open. Ana already suspected that she knew about Alberto being alive. I suspect Mateo then went to the postman to find out who he gave the letters to. [br The letter that Cristina pulled out of her drawer was the letter Carlos gave her from Alberto which appears to be the most recent letter Alberto sent to Ana.
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Post by hopelessromantic on Dec 18, 2016 8:35:05 GMT -5
I find Mateo and Clara instrumental in reuniting Alberto and Ana.Mateo took the initiative like a brother to look for Alberto and bring him home..While Clara helped stop the wedding and worked on Ana..encouraging her telling her there will be time for reproaches..but she should have an open mind and listen to What Alberto has to say and embrace him..In my head ,I believe they are going to make great family friends..visiting each other,their children playing together.. I will rather AJ marry Mateo's daughter..that will be something..😂😂😂...than Cristina's daughter. I don't know if some of you watch Jane the virgin..cristina and her daughter remind me of Petra and her mother..one eyed mother that's in prison,that could be Cristina..lol
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