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Post by ladyfromcanada on Dec 6, 2016 9:10:44 GMT -5
Does anyone find it so very strange that Christina always seems to know what's going on with Ana, Mateo, etc. It's like she has a mole somewhere. Case in point, from the moment Ana finds out Alberto is alive, to the monent when Carlos arrives at Velvet to confront Ana, which I'm gathering is an hour at most maybe 2 depending how far away the church is maybe even shorter than that, Christina is telling him how Alberto contacted Mateo and how they found out Alberto is alive!
Isn't there anything Christna doesn't know? And now she knows when Alberto is arriving. It just astounds me how nothng is secret in Velvet except when it comes to Ana knowing. She's the only one not "plugged in" it seems.
I'm gathering she probably heard it explained when they were casually explaining it to Ana, but still for once, I would like it that Christina was in the dark about Ana and her personal life. It's so very lopsided the desimination of information in Velvet. Power is knowing and I just wish she had less of it.
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Post by alfi on Dec 6, 2016 9:22:23 GMT -5
Gosh this episode pushed my buttons. I am such a gentle natured person but Christina needs a Clara slap upside her smirky evil face π That's the spirit! repeat with me what many people said in their homes in Spain: Vaya zorra! ("in Spain is pronounced Thorra") what a bitch! she was pure evil. Confusion reigning in Velvet right now, i missed Raul reaction, i din't really care about Cristina reaction in this moment of the story. For me was when Mateo calls Clara and he said that she must stop the wedding, that Alberto and himself are going back home. So little info but implying so many things. Lovelou, I agree Christina certainly deserved a Clara slap when she grabbed Ana to taunt her able Alberto leaving her and not caring about anyone but himself. What does Ana do, allow Christina's words to get to her. When will Ana realize Christina's that intentions have always been to destroy what she and Alberto's relationship. Christina's words are not worth nada, I wouldn't give her words a second thought. Ana was in a shock and Cristina "puso el dedo en la llaga" / "she put her finger on the wound", Ana was probably wondering why Alberto didn't come back sooner, and Cristina took her chance, she is despicable, mala mala Let's hope it was written and it was not left out because they didn't want to explain what Silk was about, so they could use it for a 5th season. But reading the reaction from people it was a big moment everyone was expecting, i hardly can imagine the people of Bambu and the actors themselves overlooking this key scene.
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Post by meruska on Dec 6, 2016 13:47:28 GMT -5
I cant wait when will u upload 9th and 8th episode ?
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Post by tropikaldawl on Dec 6, 2016 14:04:33 GMT -5
Does anyone find it so very strange that Christina always seems to know what's going on with Ana, Mateo, etc. It's like she has a mole somewhere. Case in point, from the moment Ana finds out Alberto is alive, to the monent when Carlos arrives at Velvet to confront Ana, which I'm gathering is an hour at most maybe 2 depending how far away the church is maybe even shorter than that, Christina is telling him how Alberto contacted Mateo and how they found out Alberto is alive! Isn't there anything Christna doesn't know? And now she knows when Alberto is arriving. It just astounds me how nothng is secret in Velvet except when it comes to Ana knowing. She's the only one not "plugged in" it seems. I'm gathering she probably heard it explained when they were casually explaining it to Ana, but still for once, I would like it that Christina was in the dark about Ana and her personal life. It's so very lopsided the desimination of information in Velvet. Power is knowing and I just wish she had less of it. I didn't think much of that because she was there when Clara and Rita stopped her from getting into the car.
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Post by tropikaldawl on Dec 6, 2016 14:07:19 GMT -5
I cant wait when will u upload 9th and 8th episode ? They are both already up! Check the fyeahghandvelvet tumblr page with the master episode list. Go watch them right away
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Post by Lara on Dec 6, 2016 14:34:35 GMT -5
Lara said, there is one thing that makes me wonder if Alberto does indeed get back the store that I won't mention in this thread. So far the shows been predictable in a lot of ways, but unpredictable in how it's unfolding. I'm actually surprised Raul is still at Velvet. For one, he doesn't like Marco, another, he's very uninspired doing the men's line, and finally he doesn't seem like the type of person to stay in one place. His whole thing about coming to Velvet was conquering the Spanish market, which he did. I can see him leaving Velvet to find another challenge at the end. What keeps him there is probably all the close friends he now has there. Camille said, Lara you know you have my interest sparked about how Alberto gets the store back. Come on, share with us.π Wasn't a part of Alberto's deal with Garaldo that he own those shares until Alberto was able to pay back the loan? If so, Alberto can just pay the loan back and kick Christina out. If not, Christina's 20% gives her no say in how Alberto runs Velvet. I believe he can even forbid her from working in the store, can't he? I love Raul's character, they have to allow him to display his men's line. Maybe he can do a runway with Ana's female line along with Raul's men's line. I think that would be interesting. I have theories on that and one on why he may not lol I'll post in the spec thread. No, I don't believe there was any deal that would allow him to buy back the shares. At first Alberto was trying to delay the wedding and told Ana and Mateo he would pay him back the money and call off the wedding. Then Cristina and Gerardo set the date in 2 months and a lot ended up happening after that. At first Gerardo didn't get any shares, it was a straight up cash for marriage transaction. When Gerardo found Ana's note, he wanted to call off the deal and wanted his money back. Here's where it always gets murky for me. Alberto didn't sign a contract with him, just his word that he would marry Cristina. I thought he could've bailed out and kept the money, but then their big s/l was gone. I also thought after Raul's line started selling, he could have called it off and paid him back. There were a few eps after Ana left him at the altar where he was determined to marry Cristina. By the engagement party ep, he wanted outed, but felt obligated at that point. He seemed relieved he and Ana were about to be outed at the engagement party, so Cristina would call it off. What I don't understand is why he gave Gerardo as many shares as he did, I think Gerardo would have taken less. Either way, that was a turning point, because we got Enrique and Cristina to stay around well past their expiration dates with them being part owners. Gerardo wouldn't have made the deal if there was any way Alberto could just pay him back and divorce Cristina. The latter ended up happening and that's why I thought it was crazy not to have had a confrontation between Gerardo and Alberto. He went through with the marriage, but it lasted all of a few months. I guess Gerardo thought Alberto would just fall in line and hope he would fall in love with her or at least view the marriage as an arrangement like Enrique did his. Gerardo would do anything to make his little buttercup happy. The lack of Gerardo/Cristina confrontation always bothered me too. She pretended to him that she and Alberto were still together. One would think she would confront him about the buying her a husband, but as we have seen, she doesn't care how she got him as long as she got him. I still think they should have had the twist where she told Alberto she knew and didn't care. Anyway, the fact that Cristina held so much power over A/A last season was ridiculous. They needed to team up on her instead of always standing there looking sheepish. I also thought they should have flaunted their relationship more in the store. Nothing was going to stop her from plotting revenge anyway and they would have at least made her uncomfortable and we would've had some great moments lol I loved the all to brief scene when she and Barbara saw them making out. Really she didn't need to be there being a minority shareholder, actually, her father was the owner, but I guess they had no choice and couldn't throw her out. She only went there to cause problems anyway. Raul's awesome. I don't think the men's line is something that really inspires him. I also can't imagine how he isn't the least bit jealous of Ana's success. She does the flashier women's lines, wins the awards and even has two large pictures of her magazine covers hanging in the workroom while Raul has a smaller, less glamorous shot below.
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Post by Krys on Dec 6, 2016 15:23:30 GMT -5
Thanks VV and alfi for your hard work! It's much appreciated. <3 I lol'd at how Marco and Enrique now "care" about Ana, trying to appease her. That scene was just so satisfying because finally, finally Ana has the true upper hand and she didn't have to take any of their crap. Marco is so incredibly short-sighted. (I'll never be over what a waste his character became in S4 when he was so promising at the end of S3. I keep saying this, but I'll just keep saying it. lol) I don't know what Carlos and Cristina are trying to accomplish. Cristina acts like she knows A/A so well (like how she says Ana won't forgive Alberto for being gone so long), when in truth, she doesn't know a damn thing. They keep spinning these lies, trying to make Ana doubt, but all of it goes up in smoke once A/A meet. Their endgame is flimsy, at best. I did enjoy seeing Carlos freaking out at Cristina though, not gonna lie. I really hope the villains get their comeuppance in the end. I think they will, but whether or not it'll be satisfying remains to be seen. Carlos' whole spiel in the break room made me roll my eyes. I just want Ana to slap him. Give me that, show. Alberto will most likely fight him, but Carlos saw and was witness to Ana's deep grief. Carlos interfering with the letters was incredibly cruel. If anyone should get to lash out at Carlos, it's Ana.
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Post by Lara on Dec 6, 2016 17:39:37 GMT -5
I lol'd at how Marco and Enrique now "care" about Ana, trying to appease her. That scene was just so satisfying because finally, finally Ana has the true upper hand and she didn't have to take any of their crap. Marco is so incredibly short-sighted. (I'll never be over what a waste his character became in S4 when he was so promising at the end of S3. I keep saying this, but I'll just keep saying it. lol) I don't know what Carlos and Cristina are trying to accomplish. Cristina acts like she knows A/A so well (like how she says Ana won't forgive Alberto for being gone so long), when in truth, she doesn't know a damn thing. They keep spinning these lies, trying to make Ana doubt, but all of it goes up in smoke once A/A meet. Their endgame is flimsy, at best. I did enjoy seeing Carlos freaking out at Cristina though, not gonna lie. I really hope the villains get their comeuppance in the end. I think they will, but whether or not it'll be satisfying remains to be seen. Carlos' whole spiel in the break room made me roll my eyes. I just want Ana to slap him. Give me that, show. Alberto will most likely fight him, but Carlos saw and was witness to Ana's deep grief. Carlos interfering with the letters was incredibly cruel. If anyone should get to lash out at Carlos, it's Ana. Ana should have done that a long time ago. Can't believe if it took her so long to see she was wasting her time with those two and should go elsewhere, leaving them hi and dry. The show had been in sort of a holding pattern until ep 9. That is my biggest question right now. What was Cristina's true end game with the wedding. I mean she was going to call Alberto to do what exactly? Initially I thought she would also tell Ana, but now I'm thinking she would've kept her in the dark, which would benefit Carlos. Though what would she get out that? Hurting Alberto? He's already hurt as she knows from his last letter, probably thinking Ana was married already. Just the same, Cristina could have just lied and told him she was married. I said this in the other thread, they should have thrown in a brief scene of Cristina ending up at SILK mid season, finding out Alberto was alive, but not telling him they all thought he was dead and then telling him Ana was married with a young child. She would try to maintain the contact through phone calls and trips to NY and show she is changed. Alberto might be vulnerable at the confirmation of Ana being married, hence no response to his letters, and Cristina could have seized on the that. She could also do what I'm still expecting, tell Alberto Ana moved on but she has loved and mourned him for years. This way no huge Adele plothole, clearer motivation for Cristina and better connecting Alberto to the story. They already kind of mucked it up with him never calling and not knowing she has a kid despite Ana's fame. Plus, no one knowing he was alive and running a successful Atelier in NYC or him knowing that they all thought he was on the plane that crashed. The note to Mateo and all that followed could've still played out the exact way. The wedding thing was really lame and made no sense. Maybe if they explained it better, but it wasn't and I'm not holding my breath. Cristina is delusional. If she's so sure about Alberto and Ana doubting each other, she wouldn't be trying so hard to keep them separated. Both Carlos scenes with Cristina were great. PV did a great job too. I think Cristina and Ana need a catfight and Ana throwing it down finally. She always looks scared and intimidated by Cristina, even when she has no reason to be. I don't think Ana could say anything that would hurt Carlos because I've never been convinced of his love of her. The only thing that might hurt him is Jr. confronting him in some way. I do wish Cristina would get the verbal smackdown similar to the one Carlos inflicted on Ana from Alberto, only 100x worse. He was always way too easy on her.
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Post by loveloulabel on Dec 6, 2016 22:21:10 GMT -5
That's the spirit! repeat with me what many people said in their homes in Spain: Vaya zorra! ("in Spain is pronounced Thorra") what a bitch! she was pure evil.
Glad to improve my Spanish learning, thanks Alfi! Now if I could just move to Spain I'd feel happy π
I missed Raul's reaction too, and I don't care about Christina's either. Vaya Zorra π
I LOVED when Mateo told Clara he missed her. He is a true gentleman of the heart. And when he said he and Alberto are coming home I felt so happy. It reminded me of when they arrived at the end of Rita and Pedro's wedding and how happy we all felt!
Now if we can just guess who is the one that gets to Christina and gives her that slap my heart would be light. And will we see Carlos again? π€
Ah I LOVE LOVE LOVE these Spanish television series' it's like they were meant for my heart.
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Post by sandy60 on Dec 6, 2016 23:08:30 GMT -5
Do you think Ana finds out what Carlos did. After the know alberto died and he didn't. And kept from her all this time ?
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Post by Camille on Dec 6, 2016 23:25:58 GMT -5
Gosh this episode pushed my buttons. I am such a gentle natured person but Christina needs a Clara slap upside her smirky evil face π That's the spirit! repeat with me what many people said in their homes in Spain: Vaya zorra! ("in Spain is pronounced Thorra") what a bitch! she was pure evil. Confusion reigning in Velvet right now, i missed Raul reaction, i din't really care about Cristina reaction in this moment of the story.Β For me was when Mateo calls Clara and he said that she must stop the wedding, that Alberto and himself are going back home. So little info but implying so many things. Lovelou, I agree Christina certainly deserved a Clara slap when she grabbed Ana to taunt her able Alberto leaving her and not caring about anyone but himself. What does Ana do, allow Christina's words to get to her. When will Ana realize Christina's that intentions have always been to destroy what she and Alberto's relationship. Christina's words are not worth nada, I wouldn't give her words a second thought. Ana was in a shock and Cristina "puso el dedo en la llaga" / "sheΒ put her finger on the wound", Ana was probably wondering why Alberto didn't come back sooner, and Cristina took her chance, she is despicable, mala mala Let's hope it was written and it was not left out because they didn't want to explain what Silk was about, so they could use it for a 5th season. But reading the reaction from people it was a big moment everyone was expecting, i hardly can imagine the people of Bambu and the actors themselves overlooking this key scene. Lol πππAlfi your comments to the various post are Hillarious. Yup I agree with the other posts, Mateo/Alberto reunion was a missed opportunity. I would have loved for the episode to open up giving the audience a glimpse of the reunion.
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Post by Camille on Dec 6, 2016 23:57:00 GMT -5
Do you think Ana finds out what Carlos did. After the know alberto died and he didn't. And kept from her all this time ? I certainly hope so. The writers wouldn't be so cruel as to not reveal Carlos to Ana as the jerk that he Is. She has to find out the truth about him. If not, it will leave a bad taste is many of our mouthsπ.
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Post by Camille on Dec 6, 2016 23:59:48 GMT -5
That's the spirit! repeat with me what many people said in their homes in Spain: Vaya zorra! ("in Spain is pronounced Thorra") what a bitch! she was pure evil. Glad to improve my Spanish learning, thanks Alfi! Now if I could just move to Spain I'd feel happy π I missed Raul's reaction too, and I don't care about Christina's either. Vaya Zorra π I LOVED when Mateo told Clara he missed her. He is a true gentleman of the heart. And when he said he and Alberto are coming home I felt so happy. It reminded me of when they arrived at the end of Rita and Pedro's wedding and how happy we all felt! Now if we can just guess who is the one that gets to Christina and gives her that slap my heart would be light. And will we see Carlos again? π€ Ah I LOVE LOVE LOVE these Spanish television series' it's like they were meant for my heart. I love thes shows too. They are pretty awesome. π
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Post by tropikaldawl on Dec 7, 2016 0:48:21 GMT -5
Do you think Ana finds out what Carlos did. After the know alberto died and he didn't. And kept from her all this time ? I certainly hope so. The writers wouldn't be so cruel as to not reveal Carlos to Ana as the jerk that he Is. She has to find out the truth about him. If not, it will leave a bad taste is many of our mouthsπ. She should have confronted him about using Cristina for the wedding. I mean thank goodness she didn't marry him since he obviously doesn't know Ana well enough. I know Alberto's news was a bigger shock, but still. She could have made it seem like his fault too that she called it off.
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Post by Camille on Dec 7, 2016 8:23:40 GMT -5
I certainly hope so. The writers wouldn't be so cruel as to not reveal Carlos to Ana as the jerk that he Is. She has to find out the truth about him. If not, it will leave a bad taste is many of our mouthsπ. She should have confronted him about using Cristina for the wedding. I mean thank goodness she didn't marry him since he obviously doesn't know Ana well enough. I know Alberto's news was a bigger shock, but still. She could have made it seem like his fault too that she called it off. I Absolutely agree. Why would Ana not address Carlos for allowing Christina to have any part of planning her wedding. If Ana didn't have time to plan her own wedding she should have made him wait. Let's not even talk about how pathetic Carlos is. Why marry someone who clearly does not want to marry you.
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