alfi
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Post by alfi on Dec 10, 2016 15:29:19 GMT -5
Nope, you don't understand what i'm trying to say, Primusoars, please don't get mad at me. Stick with me here, I agree with a lot of things you say and propose, but my interpretation of others things are different because i see the glass half full. I already said that for me the 4th season was too short, I got the feeling that there were so many individual and collective stories that needed a lot of more of attention, Cristina with someone like Victor balancing her character would have been brilliant, but you never know what are the real limitations a show has in resources, like actors not being available because the Spanish market is way more volatile than the American. There actors sign contracts for several years, here for a couple of years like MAS, many of them combine theatres plays, tv and films in the same year, like Gorka Otxoa for example. When you speak about Cristina character though, what you are suggesting is to modify the metric of the poem, and you can't do that, logic force you to stick to the metric, that's my whole point with how you would want to handle Cristina and Ana roles in the story.
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Post by tropikaldawl on Dec 12, 2016 8:23:54 GMT -5
The challenge is that the writers had one season to wrap it all up. Instead of taking that challenge and doing something great with it. They sold out. As much as I love the show, season 4 has sequestered main antagonists towards their final fate and not explored anything new with them and made them 1 dimensional (this is true not just for Cristina but for Marco, Carlos, Enrique as well). And also the writers made it the season of cameos thinking it would by itself boost ratings (Paula Prendes, Aitor Luna, Concha Velasco, Aitor Calderon) and keep viewership interested. Although I think season 3 of Gran Hotel made everyone out to be a sort of caricature of themselves, I do think they introduced new characters and plot lines in a more intelligent, continuous way that kept the audience intrigued (Cisneros, maite, ...) and even added additional depth to existing characters (Belen, Teresa, don Benjamin). When a cameo was brought in, there was full closure (Beatriz). So I do think the writers are capable. Furthermore, I have only seen 2 shows so far by Bambu, so I can't really speak to whether they stick to traditional molds of Spanish telenovelas, but the two shows had a lot a lot in common in terms of storyline (period pieces, class differences, romance involving the heir/heiress, live-in staff with two bosses, recently deceased father of heir/heiress, comedic male character with mustache). I don't even know that they couldn't have waited until MAS was free to do more of season 4, or at least insert his isolated scenes in to earlier episodes (so that the viewers would know things that haven't yet been revealed to the main characters - this did happen in GH). But I do think that whatever their motivations, they did 'sell out' and compromise some of the script, storyline and character development for commercial success. I saw the official Facebook page the Spanish viewers agree that the season has a lot of "relleno" and not much true substance. Perhaps the writers thought they could get away with this because of the anticipation for Alberto's return. But I think several things have backfired (character depth, time jumps that were not necessary, lack of continuity, lack of closure) and many viewers were not left satisfied. But, per their metric of success, people are still watching, including all of us. Let's just hope the ending for the main characters is truly satisfying so that we forget the rest and a good taste remains in our mouth  |
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Post by tropikaldawl on Dec 12, 2016 8:43:22 GMT -5
I love the music in Velvet! Maybe in last week's special it played again, but there was a nice song by Bob Bradley and Cherie Gears called Christmas Magic that is stuck in my head it was so nice. (By the way I'm so behind on all of your posts, I don't know if I can read all of them to catch up ) |
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Post by ariana on Dec 16, 2016 11:24:39 GMT -5
We only get him for 2 episodes!! At least she didn't marry Carlos!!! Thank goodness!! Season 5?? USA here, not up to speed on season4. whatever happened to Christinas baby? |
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Post by ladyfromcanada on Dec 16, 2016 11:45:14 GMT -5
She had a daughter by Victor. Not sure if that's the answer you're looking for.
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Post by sandy60 on Dec 21, 2016 19:35:32 GMT -5
I thought it ended. Real good 😊. Sad 😠to see end If they do spin off. It won't be the same with Alberto and Ana. I think
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