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Post by tropikaldawl on Dec 14, 2016 22:50:00 GMT -5
2. Patricia/Enrique. Not just Patricia/Enrique, but barely any Patricia reacting to Alberto being alive, or reflecting on everything that's happened to her. The only reason she even existed in this episode was to make Enrique feel bad about losing his kid even though he already has one child he ignores. Everything about this storyline is just offensive. In case it is any consolation to you, Patricia did acknlowedge her brother's return was affecting her early on in her dialogue with Enrique.
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Post by tropikaldawl on Dec 14, 2016 23:17:29 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the episode. Alberto lit up the screen with his charisma. He comes across strong even though he was vulnerable inside. He didn't take any bs from Cristina! I was really excited... Enjoyed his return with Mateo, his call with Raul. And the scene he found out he had a son. (I remember crying at some point... Maybe then). I'm glad they brought the intensity.
I felt really really bad for little Cristina (Cris). First to see her mother humiliated, still not know her father, and then to not have her mother around watching her, what happened to Cristina (sr) was very intense, based on the usual lack of depth to the show, I didn't know it would go there.
I like the look in Clara's eyes when she found out Marco has a fiancé. But nothing happened with that storyline, did she show up just for Clara to give that look to Marco? Sometimes the reveals already reveal all there is to know about a storyline from the next episode, and we already knew she would show up so nothing fun happened there.
The one thing I just couldn't believe (that no one has mentioned get) is Ana's lack of anxiety,excitement,emotion running up to the reveal. Sure she was scared, she didn't know how he would be but she honestly looked like she was dreading his return. She looked the same as she did before she was about to get married to Carlos. In her shoes, I would have been jumpy, unable to sit still, excited, hopeful, nervous, anxious all at the same time.
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Post by ladyfromcanada on Dec 14, 2016 23:40:29 GMT -5
I found the part most disturbing was little christina's face when her mother flew into a tantrum at Alberto at the airport after he rejected her. The look was life changing. Deep down I'm sure little Christina as precocious as she is knows something is off with her mom.But to be humiliated at the airport in front of lots of strangers does something to a child. It's the moment where you hate your mother for lying and all her manipulations. If there is another season it will be the payback Little Christina imports on her mother for destroying her life.
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Post by Camille on Dec 15, 2016 1:12:54 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for making my night. The play-by-play you provided was invigorating. I did not stop until I read every post. I cannot wait to watch the this episode witt subs. I tried to watch the episode live with no success, however, reading everyone's posts was the next best thing to watching it.
Lara, this episode had to be intense if you felt an ounce of sympathy for Christina, I was shocked. Then you came back with "she should have died" 😂😄. I thought for sure she was going to die when I saw that fire. Christina is like the energizer bunny, she just keeps going, and going, and going. I bow down to Alberto 🙌 for not letting Christina pull another one over on him. I'm so glad he shut her down, it was music to my ears. When everyone kept calling her one eyed wirch, it was Hillarious. Poor pathetic person.
So you think it's a possibility that Alberto can get Velvet back, yeah!!! That's something to look forward to, I hope he gets it back. I'm also glad Mateo didnt tell Alberto about his son, especially since we didn't get to see their reunion. I really want to see Alberto's expression when he found out. Well the majority of the post were duper excited about this episode so I cannot wait to see the episode. Down to the wire for the season finale. I wish we had a couple more episodes.😏
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Post by lettywhite on Dec 15, 2016 3:06:25 GMT -5
I was almost glad to be in bed sick today which gave me the excuse to read all the comments and to slowly make it through the episode, pausing to translate key moments with Google Translate. This combined with the comments and blow by blow details from others allowed me to feel some satisfaction until I can view the version with English subtitles (thank you so much to the ladies who do this).
Some of the comments made the episode seem less satisfying than it actually was. I enjoyed it. The A/A reunion and the Alberto Jr. rescue were tearjerkers. After waiting for so long for the scene with the blue dress, it was surreal to finally be watching this episode.
I so wish there was another season. Or even a few more episodes. And does anyone feel like we are being set up for Raul and Jonas to become an item?
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Post by lettywhite on Dec 15, 2016 3:18:17 GMT -5
And the waterworks just sprung watching Raul react to Alberto. OMG I'm going to miss this show so much. <3 One of my favorite scenes, too. Raul really brings it -- never a bad scene when he is in it.
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Post by staceylehua on Dec 15, 2016 5:06:32 GMT -5
Watching where Alberto goes to find Alberto jr and crying like a baby..... I've watch it like 5 times! Can't wait for the subtitles
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Post by hopelessromantic on Dec 15, 2016 6:56:10 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the episode. Alberto lit up the screen with his charisma. He comes across strong even though he was vulnerable inside. He didn't take any bs from Cristina! I was really excited... Enjoyed his return with Mateo, his call with Raul. And the scene he found out he had a son. (I remember crying at some point... Maybe then). I'm glad they brought the intensity. I felt really really bad for little Cristina (Cris). First to see her mother humiliated, still not know her father, and then to not have her mother around watching her, what happened to Cristina (sr) was very intense, based on the usual lack of depth to the show, I didn't know it would go there. I like the look in Clara's eyes when she found out Marco has a fiancé. But nothing happened with that storyline, did she show up just for Clara to give that look to Marco? Sometimes the reveals already reveal all there is to know about a storyline from the next episode, and we already knew she would show up so nothing fun happened there. The one thing I just couldn't believe (that no one has mentioned get) is Ana's lack of anxiety,excitement,emotion running up to the reveal. Sure she was scared, she didn't know how he would be but she honestly looked like she was dreading his return. She looked the same as she did before she was about to get married to Carlos. In her shoes, I would have been jumpy, unable to sit still, excited, hopeful, nervous, anxious all at the same time. You are right Ana was so anxious and afraid. .she didn't know what to expect from Alberto..five years is a long time but I am glad they are still in love.Even Alberto when he was stepping out of the car you can see the anxiety written on his handsome face. It was an intense moment for them..
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Post by hopelessromantic on Dec 15, 2016 7:55:49 GMT -5
Where was clara and Mateo when the fire hoopla was going on..? Alberto wins father of the year award with the way he ran into the burning workshop to save his son.. Do you think Alberto saw cristina lying there?maybe he was thinking burn bitch!!😃😃..personally I don't think so..I think he was alarmed and busy saving his son. I love Raul and Jonas,and fate has truly smiled on Jo. .he does look very handsome in his suit..❤❤
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Post by domino on Dec 15, 2016 8:07:54 GMT -5
Where was clara and Mateo when the fire hoopla was going on..? Alberto wins father of the year award with the way he ran into the burning workshop to save his son.. Do you think Alberto saw cristina lying there?maybe he was thinking burn bitch!!😃😃..personally I don't think so..I think he was alarmed and busy saving his son. I love Raul and Jonas,and fate has truly smiled on Jo. .he does look very handsome in his suit..❤❤ After Clara opened the door and they kissed Mateo said " lets go home"
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Post by Grace on Dec 15, 2016 9:18:51 GMT -5
Antenna 3 had a preview for next week wth proposing at the hospital now they do t have it, does anyone know where to find?
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Post by debmac on Dec 15, 2016 9:24:50 GMT -5
And does anyone feel like we are being set up for Raul and Jonas to become an item?[/quote] I was wondering the same thing
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Post by northboundtrain on Dec 15, 2016 9:35:47 GMT -5
2. Patricia/Enrique. Not just Patricia/Enrique, but barely any Patricia reacting to Alberto being alive, or reflecting on everything that's happened to her. The only reason she even existed in this episode was to make Enrique feel bad about losing his kid even though he already has one child he ignores. Everything about this storyline is just offensive. In case it is any consolation to you, Patricia did acknlowedge her brother's return was affecting her early on in her dialogue with Enrique. Oh, I got that mention, I just wanted to see more...it goes back to what I said earlier about thinking there was perhaps too much of Jonas' story in this episode...one of the things I would have done more with was Patricia. This would have been the perfect time, for example, to have some Patricia/Ana interaction. Just something to make her appearance seem like more than just a way for Enrique to have internal angst about her miscarriage. And does anyone feel like we are being set up for Raul and Jonas to become an item? I could be wrong about this, but I don't think so...Jonas strikes me as someone who would have a serious internal crisis if he realized he liked men (especially given the time period and attitudes back then), but I haven't gotten that sense so far...while LG and AE have great chemistry working together, Jonas' mind seems more on the work than anything. But, again, I could be wrong...the show has definitely surprised me in other ways this season.
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Post by ladyfromcanada on Dec 15, 2016 10:34:55 GMT -5
I agree hopeless I think Ana was nervous seeing Alberto because of what Carlos said, that he might show up but "with a woman". We knew he wouldn't but as you said 5 years is a long time. Ana was just hoping he felt the same way she did that he still thought of her every minute of every day like her.
Also she was also to tell him he had a son. Many mixed emotions for sure. I felt that they collapsed in each other's arms like nothing had changed. The years apart just vanished as it should with true love.
I will have to wait until the subtitles but I was really curious how they explained Carlos to Alberto Jr?
And did Marco sell the store? I'm gathering he did but did he tell the buyer Ana would continue on with Velvet? What a crook eh? Ana will definitely have grounds to break her contract.
Someone mentioned only see Christina at the beginning and then nothing. I hope it reveals a few things before they send her on her merry way straight to a sanatorium or jail for trying to burn Velvet down. First I want her reaction when she finds out Ana and Alberto married. But more importantly that she alone ruined her life. She's disfigured for life from a fire she alone started. She has no one to blame but herself for that one. I hope Barbara spends what quality time she has in the next episode convincing Christina that she has lost the battle and needs to move on.
It is rather a coincidence that she runs into Velvet and finds the dress there. Did anyone else find that odd? Unless she knew ahead of time. I recognize that it was a symbolic gesture on the part of the writers but still, but rather contrived if I may say so. As someone said they still have a far greater bond, Alberto Jr. I think it's small consolation that she felt concern for Alberto Jr. When he came into the room. Knowing Christina she would have angled that to her advantage if she successfully pulled him from the fire. At this point leaving him for dead would have made more sense as she would have killed the 1 thing that she couldn't have, Alberto's son. That's a horrible thing to say but Christina isn't capable of anything more but of the most dispicable acts. She one very twisted bitch. It wouldn't surprise me if her one last Stand was to take an automatic weapon and shoot up the church where Ana and Alberto were to be married. Very Rambo like but Christina is insane.
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Post by hopelessromantic on Dec 15, 2016 11:44:35 GMT -5
Where was clara and Mateo when the fire hoopla was going on..? Alberto wins father of the year award with the way he ran into the burning workshop to save his son.. Do you think Alberto saw cristina lying there?maybe he was thinking burn bitch!!😃😃..personally I don't think so..I think he was alarmed and busy saving his son. I love Raul and Jonas,and fate has truly smiled on Jo. .he does look very handsome in his suit..❤❤ After Clara opened the door and they kissed Mateo said " lets go home" That makes sense..❤😄🙌🙌🙌
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