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Post by imanoes on Nov 22, 2016 11:45:43 GMT -5
VV, can you please post the link where i can watch this episode with english sub?
Thankyouuu very much for the efford, im addicted to this story😍
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Post by Camillr on Nov 22, 2016 11:55:39 GMT -5
Ladyfromcanada, not sure which bucket you are putting my opinion in, but even though I find Ana & Alberto's relationship sort of fantasy-like and unrealistic at times, I am so rooting for them to be together. Their storyline has definitely brought the most intensity and drama. The other interesting storylines to me are the comic relief ones like Mateo and Clara. Ana frustrated me in Season 3 by deciding not to be happy with Alberto again! Season 2's ending was very satisfying. If you've ever watched Jane the Virgin she is another main character that drives me mad at times with her decisions. On a side note I wish Mateo and Clara were still together this season. They could have focused on tension between her and the Madres We are a diverse group of people and have different life experiences, we all sees the show in different light. There are no right or wrong opinion that's why it make this forum so interesting. I can't wait each day to get home take out my iPad and start reading it. Good job VV to setup this forum!! I completely agree primusoars. I also agree VV has done a fantastic job developing this thread. So glad I stumbled upon it. Reading these posts is one of my daily highlights too. I like many post but cant figure out how to like a post without commenting. I don't comment on all posts but I like many. Awesome feedback, suggestions and speculations from so many different cultures which is what makes it unique. I look forward to seeing Clara and Mateo back together. I couldn't get on board with the suggestion of Ana and Mateo as a couple. If they had dated before A/A and C/M then I would have been for it 💯 percent because they really do make an awesome couple. Ana and Mateo dating would have certainly made an interesting storyline especially upon Alberto's returns but it would have been bad for so many brotherly and sisterly friendships. I love Alberto and Mateo's friendship which would never have been the same if Mateo had gone there. I'm looking forward to the next few episodes we have left.
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Post by primusoars on Nov 22, 2016 12:06:40 GMT -5
You did missing some parts in S2 when Ana was breaking up with Carlos, he was abusive by not accepting the break up . Once in the workshop in front of other people pulling Ana, the second time in Pausa and again right before Alberto show up in the back door of Velvet. I think the series was trying to show Carlos has the capacity to be violent when he is desperate and things does not go his way. Yes, you are absolutely right Alberto is no saint he can be rude, inpatient and quick tempered but he bears no malice to other people, he doesn't intentionally embarrass people put them down and he is a very fair boss. His relationship with Ana was not always smooth but they understand each other well, knows what the other person needs And when they are together the chemistry was amazing. I wouldn't say he never intentionally hurts or embarrassed people. He was very intentional with hurting Patricia and Christina on multiple occasions, and even Ana after they broke up in season one I felt. He is a fair boss. At times he and Ana seem to understand each other really well and other times they seem to not know each other at all. I am not making excuses for Alberto just a difference of opinions . He was unkind to Patricia. I think they are siblings there is always friction between them and that frictions is well establish by Rafael and Gloria because they want different things for them. Each time when Alberto was unkind or nasty toward Cristina it was an reaction toward her action. 1. When Cristina insists to call her father to solve some money issues for Alberto even when he was trying to stop her, she insisted as if money can resolve everything and her father has plenty of it not knowing the marriage was already bought by her father. 2. When Cristina ask Gloria to be maid of honor w/o mentioning it to Alberto. Alberto had a very rocky past with Gloria and he was never kind toward Alberto because he is not her son. Cristina never understood it. On top of that she was having this country club pre-wedding celebration " the whole Madrid will be there". Alberto just blow up on her. 3. He came home one day after all the problems at work having a very intimate moment with her on the driveway then to find out Enrique invited The new- old designer to Alberto's house for dinner w/0 even ask Alberto. Cristina never noticed that her brother is against Alberto and eventually he wants to push Alberto out of the business. 4. During dinner Alberto was trying to argue for Raul de la Rivera Cristina was trying to stop Alberto . Alberto felt he was being disrespected by her and her family. Whose in charge of Velvet anyway? It seems that he is loosing control! 5. During dinner with Alberto's real mother, Patricia would not have dinner with them because it makes "her" parents marriage illegal. Patricia knew her father was previously married and she is still alive from the letter Rafael left for Alberto and Patricia burned. When Alberto mentioned that he had numerous dinner with Gloria that he did not want to. Cristina again argued for Gloria and they are such "good parent" to him. She seem not to want to believe Alberto had a bad relationship with Gloria. Gloria is a scheming woman. 6. When Elena is dyeing Alberto was trying to keep thing light for her not to stress her out. Cristina is crying over her relationship with Alberto to Elena . He told her not to do that, she blow up and said I want to save this marriage as if there are nothing in this world except what she Want! 7. At the wake of Elena she invited lots of guests which neither Alberto or Elena know those guest, their are her friends and family. Alberto wants to throw them out but didn't. How sensitive is Cristina ? In conclusion; their marriage is doomed to fail and Alberto was react ed to her actions more than intentionally hurting her.
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Post by finnish hola on Nov 22, 2016 12:29:52 GMT -5
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Post by imanoes on Nov 22, 2016 12:32:25 GMT -5
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Post by Lara on Nov 22, 2016 14:08:56 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I love Ana/Albero, I think only Adrienne said she wasn't too fond of them, which is totally fine. It really makes it more interesting to have differing opinions. With that in mind, even though I love them, I do think the show sometimes went overboard to portray their love as something otherworldly. Yet, then would turn around and make them split for very weak reasons. I also think the last 2 seasons have tarnished that very feeling they created. First with Alberto leaving and basically making the most minimal contact and then with Ana's character not going in the best direction in S4. I thought MAS was coming back earlier and that they would have some time to re-establish the relationship, but this is going to be rushed. His long absence was certainly felt. I'm just sitting on pins and needles waiting for him to come back already!
Camille- you have to be authenticated to be able to thumbs up a comment.
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Post by Adrienne on Nov 22, 2016 14:41:16 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I love Ana/Albero, I think only Adrienne said she wasn't too fond of them, which is totally fine. It really makes it more interesting to have differing opinions. With that in mind, even though I love them, I do think the show sometimes went overboard to portray their love as something otherworldly. Yet, then would turn around and make them split for very weak reasons. I also think the last 2 seasons have tarnished that very feeling they created. First with Alberto leaving and basically making the most minimal contact and then with Ana's character not going in the best direction in S4. I thought MAS was coming back earlier and that they would have some time to re-establish the relationship, but this is going to be rushed. His long absence was certainly felt. I'm just sitting on pins and needles waiting for him to come back already! Camille- you have to be authenticated to be able to thumbs up a comment. I agree I'm the only one who has posted that they are not my favorite. I'm pretty ambivalent towards them, but having everyone else love them so much is almost pushing me in the opposite direction. 😂 I had a similar problem after Big Hero 6 came out. Both me and my husband thought it was okay. Probably a 3-3.5 stars out of 5, but everyone around us was talking about how much they LOVED it and what a great movie it was, which made us much more negative in our feelings on the movie. I'm trying to push that down because I don't dislike A/A and want them to be together. (They just aren't what draws me to the show, that's all.)
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Post by tropikaldawl on Nov 22, 2016 18:15:57 GMT -5
Ya Cristina and Alberto's relationship was doomed to fail as he loved someone else and she only ever loved the idea of him, she never got to know him really. Those examples from primusoars back that up! Ana was the only one who knew and understood him so she remained a constant in his life. There was some unprovoked insensitivity/coldness towards Cristina in season 3, like the manner in which he told her about the annulment from what I recall. He is definitely a complex man with several layers to his character, hence his charm I think.
We have gotten so off topic from episode 7! But I am so glad I found the forums and can finally talk about the show with others. Can't wait for the next episode!!
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Post by hopelessromantic on Nov 22, 2016 21:35:02 GMT -5
This is a new photo of Alberto...if I understand correctly it reads like one of the final moments on velvet unveiled....❤️❤️
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Post by dalovelee on Nov 22, 2016 23:12:57 GMT -5
This is a new photo of Alberto...if I understand correctly it reads like one of the final moments on velvet unveiled....❤️❤️ If that scene shows Alberto with anyone else other than Ana I will go ballistic ....I've stuck with this show only on the hopes I will see these two FINALLY be together...with Alberto Jr.
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Post by hopelessromantic on Nov 23, 2016 7:25:20 GMT -5
This is a new photo of Alberto...if I understand correctly it reads like one of the final moments on velvet unveiled....❤️❤️ If that scene shows Alberto with anyone else other than Ana I will go ballistic ....I've stuck with this show only on the hopes I will see these two FINALLY be together...with Alberto Jr. You are 😂 funny!I don't think he is going to be in bed with anyone..but if the pic is part of NYC then there is a possibility...but I doubt it.
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Post by hopelessromantic on Nov 23, 2016 7:37:12 GMT -5
I think when Alberto returns,he will be staying with Mateo...I don't think Mateo will let him out of his sight again!!!Except getting married to Ana.😜
Mateo and Clara need to get together already!!!!They will make a funny and happy couple.I will like to see Mateo freaking over changing diapers and Clara always been dramatic.The way she slaps Mateo each time for his follies is funny...
Wouldnt it be something..if these couples finally marry each other..Alberto/Ana,Mateo/Clara..they visit each other and their children play together...and everyone is just happy..by the way throw in Rita/Pedro that will be fun to watch.😍
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Post by Adrienne on Nov 23, 2016 12:20:27 GMT -5
Thank you VV for the subs! It is much appreciated!!! I just love Raul! He is probably my favorite character on the show. I was thinking back over my favorite scenes from the show and most of them have Raul in them. I loved the whole football game story line. I just can't get over their short shorts, especially on Jonas and Humberto. Man, everything Christina does drives me crazy now! She seems so smug all the time. Very excited for Mateo to track down Alberto. I had mixed feelings about Mateo at the beginning of the show, but he has evolved into such a great character. I love how his relationship with Ana has evolved over the four seasons. Did anyone else get the impression from Alberto's letter that he has tried to contact Mateo? The way it was written sounded like he was sad to never have heard back from Mateo, but is glad to see he is doing well, even if Mateo isn't the one to tell him. I'm hoping they can resolve that whole issue to everyone's satisfaction, because it seems so unforgivable that Alberto hasn't tied to contact him. Also, it's started to look like the "axis of evil" is going to start paying for their actions this next episode. I so hope that is the case!!
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Post by Lara on Nov 23, 2016 13:20:19 GMT -5
I'm a little worried about Mateo losing his job due to his loyalty to Ana. On the other hand, what do you think of Mateo becoming Director of Velvet? I think that would be the absolute best ending if Mateo runs Velvet, Alberto Silk and they merge. I used to want Alberto and Patricia, but for obvious reasons, Mateo would be a much better choice.
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Post by Adrienne on Nov 23, 2016 14:30:46 GMT -5
I'm a little worried about Mateo losing his job due to his loyalty to Ana. On the other hand, what do you think of Mateo becoming Director of Velvet? I think that would be the absolute best ending if Mateo runs Velvet, Alberto Silk and they merge. I used to want Alberto and Patricia, but for obvious reasons, Mateo would be a much better choice. That's the route I was thinking the show would take if Mateo ends up losing his job.
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