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Post by northboundtrain on Dec 7, 2015 22:23:27 GMT -5
Raúl de la Riva
Discussion Questions 1. Do you like him or not? 2. What's your favorite Raúl scene or quote? 3. What do you think of his designs? Thumbs up, or thumbs down? 4. What's your favorite of Raúl's relationships?
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Post by Kerry on May 9, 2016 16:38:54 GMT -5
I love Raul. He's very philosophical and witty. I love how Raul gets along well with everyone. He can hang out with the Velvet girls and then go to Pasua with the boys (Alberto and Mateo).
I do have question regarding Toni. Were they in a relationship? The video I watched did not have subtitles during the scene where Toni asks for help. I imagine he apologies for things done in the past.
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Post by northboundtrain on May 9, 2016 17:57:30 GMT -5
I think the implication is that Raul and Toni were involved at one time and Toni broke Raul's heart, which is why Raul is uncomfortable when Toni first comes around (and also why Toni would only go to Raul as a last resort). I don't think specifics were given, though it's been awhile since I watched the scenes.
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Post by Kerry on May 9, 2016 19:02:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I think so too. With that said, did you imagine a guy like Toni for Raul? Because I wouldn't have chose him as Raul's partner. In a way, I see Raul with an older gentleman, like his mentor. I thought there would be a story line combined with the plagiarism one.
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Post by northboundtrain on May 9, 2016 21:21:07 GMT -5
Before Toni came on, I think I was with you in that he wasn't what I pictured -- I think I'd always pictured Raul as being with someone similar to Raul himself...a figure from the fashion world, either a model or a designer. Like you, I wouldn't have been surprised if they'd introduced a romantic element into his relationship with his mentor.
But even though Toni wasn't what I pictured, I found myself really liking them together. Raul himself was different (so vulnerable) in his interactions with Toni than we'd seen him be with anyone else, and I think that helped me get an idea of what their relationship might have been like, and it made me want to see flashbacks to how they met, what their dynamic as a couple was like, and how they ended. I got the impression that whatever went down between them changed Raul in a fundamental way, and that made me even more curious.
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Post by Admin on May 11, 2016 15:32:44 GMT -5
I love Raul. Though I was disappointed in him when he chose to be on Cristina's side but I forgave him in the end considering he had no idea what Cristina had done.
I agree in that Toni wasn't who I pictured either but the more we got to see them interact the more disappointed I was in that we got so little of him. I understand there wasn't much to go on because he was on the run so it made sense to have him there only for a short time, but I would've loved to see some flashbacks.
And if you want to see that scene with subs, I do have the episode up where it doesn't skip ahead over that scene. I can link it for you if you'd like?
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Post by Kerry on May 11, 2016 18:26:29 GMT -5
Hey Admin,
Sure, if it's not trouble. Thank you!
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Post by Admin on May 12, 2016 11:18:24 GMT -5
So I forgot you'll still have to turn on the captions because when I transferred the .srt subtitle file to embed them, since it paused on the last video I wasn't able to time the subs so it was easier to just add these captions instead of going back to embed them. All you have to do is turn on the captions to English but it should play fine. Password: velvet3 www.dailymotion.com/video/x3ouany_velvet-3x14-part-1-eng-subs_tvThat scene is around the 25 minute mark.
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