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Post by alfi on Nov 30, 2016 18:41:38 GMT -5
I think it makes sense because the big climax of the show is going to be when they meet again, in the next episode Cristina and Carlos are going to try to separate them. I totally get that the real big moment is when they see each other again, but that's robbed of much of the power it might have had because she already knows he's alive. That's what I don't understand...if they knew they were going to have MAS for a limited time, why not just delay Ana finding out until they moment they can get them back on screen again? And cutting away from Mateo...I just don't get that at all. JR is a fantastic actor. I feel like this robbed him of some powerful material. What did he say to Alberto? What did Alberto say to him? I don't know, alfi...you know that I've defended the show A LOT on here...but I can't defend this. Either things weren't planned out as well as they should have been, and some logistical problem came up that they couldn't solve, or the writers genuinely thought this would be more powerful. If it's the latter, this is a time that I cannot agree, either on the Mateo account or the Ana account. You need to watch the episode with subs, it explains a lot. The reality is that Ana has been 5 years thinking Alberto is dead, she doesn't know what to think, she is very confused, Cristina was very cruel when she told her that Alberto abandoned her. |
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Post by Adrienne on Nov 30, 2016 18:42:25 GMT -5
Was that Marco's fiancé in the previews for next week? Yes, it was. |
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Post by debmac on Nov 30, 2016 18:44:45 GMT -5
Quoting myself, I think they just confirmed that Adele is going to make another appearance after all!!! Unless they said last season and not last episode. I think the receptionist passed along Mateo's card to Alberto and he decided that he would meet him. Does it really matter if it all comes together in the end if the journey getting there totally sucked? Most of it is about the journey at this point and not the destination. Well, to each his/her opinion...I love the show so I have been enjoying what we have left of it respecting everyone's opinion. I take it for what it is, yes frustrating at times, but the anticipation of Alberto coming back and Ana and him together is exciting for me. But I respect everyone's opinion and feelings about the show. |
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Post by northboundtrain on Nov 30, 2016 18:46:34 GMT -5
I totally get that the real big moment is when they see each other again, but that's robbed of much of the power it might have had because she already knows he's alive. That's what I don't understand...if they knew they were going to have MAS for a limited time, why not just delay Ana finding out until they moment they can get them back on screen again? And cutting away from Mateo...I just don't get that at all. JR is a fantastic actor. I feel like this robbed him of some powerful material. What did he say to Alberto? What did Alberto say to him? I don't know, alfi...you know that I've defended the show A LOT on here...but I can't defend this. Either things weren't planned out as well as they should have been, and some logistical problem came up that they couldn't solve, or the writers genuinely thought this would be more powerful. If it's the latter, this is a time that I cannot agree, either on the Mateo account or the Ana account. You need to watch the episode with subs, it explains a lot. The reality is that Ana has been 5 years thinking Alberto is dead, she doesn't know what to think, she is very confused, Cristina was very cruel when she told her that Alberto abandoned her. I'm willing to concede that I might feel better about the writing once I hear Ana's dialogue and realize the debate she might be having with herself. (Though I still think we were cheated out of those moments between Ana-at-the-car and Ana-at-the-table. Even if they just showed her walking in a daze, in slow-motion, while Rita/Clara chattered around her.) But the Ana stuff still doesn't explain the decision not to show Mateo/Alberto. If next week's episode doesn't open with a backtrack to what happened after Mateo peeked in the door, I'm just going to assume that it was either an "MAS had to hurry and return to Sense8" (I've never been so irritated by a show I don't watch) problem or a "the writers didn't want to take the time to figure out what Mateo/Alberto might say to each other during their reunion" problem. |
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Post by northboundtrain on Nov 30, 2016 18:48:14 GMT -5
* Raul returned from Paris and gave Jonas advice, and Jonas got to work sketching. He and Jonas had a nice heart to heart about Jonas going to Paris. But then when Jonas presented his designs to Raul, Raul didn't appear to like them at all, but then when Clara ripped Ana's dress, Ana got to use one of Jonas' designs instead. Raul is very pleased, he is just playing "tough teacher" on him. Thank you for the clarification...I will edit. |
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Post by Lara on Nov 30, 2016 18:50:00 GMT -5
Oh my gosh, that totally didn't go down like I expected. Although I knew she'd never marry Carlos. I'm glad Ana at least caught onto Cristina and her true colors came flying out. I don't even think Cristina was ever insane, just always an evil narcissist. S3 was just stupid, this season totally keeps in line with her from the first 2. she knows exactly what she is doing and she is terrorizing Ana. I am surprised we didnt see more of a reaction from her when it all came out. The most disappinting thing, we didnt see Mateo and Alberto reunite, not even a glimpse of Alberto. I dont even think he'll have a big sit down with Mateo and my concern is that we will barely see him next week, except for a few scenes and the reunion will be a cliffhanger. He might seriously be in little more than 1 episode. They seriously need to do a S5 to make this bullcrap of a season up to us!! I said something to my husband about having him in more episodes with smaller amounts of time and he reminded me that in the US actors are paid by the episode. I don't know if that is true for Spain as well, but it would explain why they wouldn't have him in just for a 5 second reveal at the end of an episode. Because of this I actually figured we wouldn't see him after he didn't show up in the first half of this episode. I was more let down by how anti-climactic the reveal was than anything else. Loved it when Marco wasn't able to seal the deal on selling Velvet because Ana had quit!! Based on pictures, I knew he wouldn't be in this ep. I thought maybe a glimpse with no lines that would basically be for next week's ep. I feel he will already be back on his way to Madrid next week when we first see him. I couldn't believe how anti-climatic the reveal was and that Cristina will plotting up until the end. Can't we have any good moments of Ana and Alberto? I stupidly thought we would get 2-3 eps of them being happy. Yeah right. I don't know how they are going to possibly resolve so much, not just Alberto being dead for 5 years, but Carlos, Cristina (that's going be horribly resolved I just know it) store ownership, Patricia/Enrique etc.. I think they might just gloss over a lot of it and tell us want happened in a time jump. I'm glad Ana finally quit and happy for Jonas. That's all I got 😢 That is Marco's fiancée. I am glad they didn't forget about her. That actually could be interesting. I don't get how he has the authority to sell the store when his father is the actual owner. |
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Post by hopelessromantic on Nov 30, 2016 18:53:07 GMT -5
This episode went down,the way I had dreamt it!!Even though I didn't see Alberto,it doesn't matter to me as long as Ana doesn't marry Carlos,I am good.
This episode Just emphasized just how violent Carlos can get!!!The huge scene he made when Cristina told him the bad news...for a second I thought he was going to punch Cristina!!That man has no business near Ana and her little boy!He is as delusional and dangerous as Cristina..He needs a serious beat down from Alberto.
Dear Patricia..well you had that coming.Moreover smoking and Alcohol will do that to an expectant mother..then you add your dark secrets with Enrique and the police investigation...all that stress.If only you stopped humping Enrique for a second ...and used your brain!!
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Post by mommatequiero on Nov 30, 2016 18:54:47 GMT -5
Was that Marco's fiancé in the previews for next week? yes, indeed! |
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Post by mommatequiero on Nov 30, 2016 18:58:44 GMT -5
I'm still super excited to see Alberto find out he has a son and meet the little guy. I hope they handle it well. They did such a wonderful job with the death of Isabel. Such a beautiful scene, emotion and great writing. I hope that we get a little of that in the last two episodes but not so sure after tonight. Still hopeful
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Post by alfi on Nov 30, 2016 19:00:47 GMT -5
When Clara ripped Ana's wedding gown,I fell off my couch,i laughed so hard.I am not surprised!!Rita couldn't interfere much because She wasn't the one that's in constant contact with Mateo,she doesn't understand the degree of what's going on,just like Ana she is equally in shock and still processing it.Unlike Clara who knew that the wedding must be stalled. Raul reaction hahaha. *Raul is playing more like a "tough judge" excuse me North, because Jonas is going to have to pass an exam i suppose. In fact Raul is who tells Ana about Jonas' dress because he loves it. The stop of the wedding had to be anti-climatic, to film in a church full of people dressed for a wedding would be too much money, and if you think about it, as hopelessromantic says, Ana is in shock, she can't process what is happening, no fireworks were going to be launched there. Episode 10 Episode 11. |
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Post by Alessandra on Nov 30, 2016 19:01:56 GMT -5
OMG OMG!!!! This episode made me so nervous!! I was waiting for a shocking confrontation between Mateo and Alberto. But at least Ana knows now, can't believe she just kept crying and moping (didn't understand what she was saying tho). I would be happy af if I found out my other half was still alive, but then again...if Carlos hadn't hid those letters grmpfffff.... Like seriously.... I can't wait for the happy ending 😫 They better be considering a next season, this can't be the last one.... 😭
Btw; why does Doña Blanca appear so little this season? I'd love to see her own storyline, hoping she would have a man in her life.
I can't wait for the next episode..
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Post by Texas on Nov 30, 2016 19:07:34 GMT -5
Yes!! Thank God for Clara and Rita!! They ran to the car told her as she was getting in the car headed to wedding. SO HAPPY TO SEE CARLOS AND CHRISTINA FINALLY UPSET!!! But i thought her reaction was weak to the news. Maybe it will be better with subs. finally we see some good news for ana. Next week will be awesome.cant wait!!
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Post by debmac on Nov 30, 2016 19:08:48 GMT -5
I'm still super excited to see Alberto find out he has a son and meet the little guy. I hope they handle it well. They did such a wonderful job with the death of Isabel. Such a beautiful scene, emotion and great writing. I hope that we get a little of that in the last two episodes but not so sure after tonight. Still hopeful same here |
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Post by amh08 on Nov 30, 2016 19:10:24 GMT -5
I'm so excited Ana didn't marry Carlos. I haven't watched the episodes in a few weeks and I can't wait to go catch up.
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Post by alfi on Nov 30, 2016 19:10:29 GMT -5
I wonder if they will open when Mateo and Alberto meet again in the next episode, they are going to want a big start of the episode, nothing better than that.
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