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Post by hopelessromantic on Nov 29, 2016 16:59:36 GMT -5
I have never been a fan of Patricia....I think she is a mean spirited,back stabbing bitch!!She is a two faced gold digger.I hope she gets what's coming to her and Enrique...Poor Valentin he thought,he found a good wife,instead she helped Enrique to murder her husband.No wonder she can't be trusted with the business...humping another woman's husband at work..how stupid can she get.Valentin was the best thing that happened to Patricia but of course she blew it!!I hope both of them go to jail.Enrique is such a tool,I don't see him protecting Patricia in this mess.
Clara/Mateo have truly come a long way.Mateo that is so scared to death of commitment and Clara who is sometimes so childish,erratic with the slapping tantrums...seems to have cooled down.They are more respectful to each other,listens to each other and more in love than ever. Bravo!!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️️ In all the situations where Ana has been undermined out of hate and jealousy...Cristina has been in the middle planning it all.She has been an accomplice..Alberto saw through her when he accused her of been so full of hate.Imagine if Alberto comes home and marries Ana...it will kill her.
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Post by alba on Nov 29, 2016 18:28:37 GMT -5
Why are there so many painful scenarios for A/A. How much more are the writers going to put them through before we finally see them happy together. This is becoming quite frustrating to watch. It's becoming old, to be looking at all the haters, especially Christina hammer Ana all the time, season after season; episode after episode!!!!. Where does it all end! What's going on with these writers???
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Post by Lara on Nov 29, 2016 18:49:18 GMT -5
Never thought I would be saying this, but my favorite part of the episode was Pedro! His snarky comments about Cristina were awesome! His conversation with Carmen's lawyer was also great when he said he didn't care too much about Valentin and how Patricia's been really happy like the Merry Widow since he died. Then how he got them caught. I am shocked that Pedro still has a job there lol I really don't care for Patricia either. I always found her to be the bratty, younger sister, but then they started to mature her, like when she sided in the best interest of the store and not with Enrique. I started to warm to her more. This season she's just terrible and just another pretty useless character. Sad because she had untapped potential and I really felt for her at the end of last season.
I'm now convinced Cristina actually wants to be Ana. She was talking about the collection like it was hers and she's planning the wedding like it's hers. I think she has transferred her obsession with Alberto to Ana. Honestly, she should leave Velvet and move to the North Pole and start an event planning business, seems to be what she's best at. Seriously, she is the nastiest character ever, the way she spoke to Clara was disgusting. It's not her craziness either, this is who she always was, but just kept it hidden the first 2 seasons. If they do follow through with another season, movie, special whatever she MUST be gone or we need to see her totally down and out with nowhere to go but further down. I'm so sick of this character and one note actress. Talk about beating a dead horse. The fact that she still has pull with the elite of Madrid is an absolute joke. What the hell are the writers' thinking? They had a better storyline at their feet that they themselves set in motion in season 1 and 2 only to completely ignore it for the drivel we are watching now.
Marco... He needs a one way ticket to Italy. Whoever said (BK?) he is the S3 male Cristina is 100% right. I rewatched his S3 scenes and he was nothing like what we see now. His storyline is stupid as was his speech. At the beginning of the ep the girl came in asking for Ana's designs, she's all over the media as the designer for Velvet. Everybody knows who designed that collection. I find it unbelievable Cristina would help Marco find a buyer for the store, she is so power and control hungry she would jump at the chance to buy him out. Enrique's been after more shares from the beginning, he even offered to buy Cristina out at the will reading. Unless Cristina decides to sell with Marco and then they find out the new owner is actually Alberto! OMG, that would be epic!!! And so apropos considering she first came to work there to torture him and Ana. 🙏🏼 Let this happen!!! If Ana leaves Velvet, I can totally see Cristina losing interest in the store. We also don't know her plans for Alberto. In her mind with Ana out of the way will she want Alberto to be totally disconnected to Velvet if Ana is still there? Will she want to move to NY? I truly believe in her mind she thinks it's a given she will be back with Alberto soon. That's where her confidence and nicer dressing is coming into play. Enrique will sell or give/sell his 20% shares to Patricia and they'll go back to what it was suppose to always be. Except Mateo will run the store instead of Alberto.
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Post by Kathryn on Nov 29, 2016 20:05:18 GMT -5
Hi!
i am hardcore fan of Velvet! While I wait for episode 9, I'm looking for Grand Hotel videos with subtitle link, anyone?
thank you kindly.
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Post by ladyfromcanada on Nov 29, 2016 22:09:36 GMT -5
Oh Lara everything you said I agreed with. Christina wants to be Ana. I just watch part 2 and I was so offended by Christina. When she was bullying Petro and Jonas she said something to the affect "I have a parade to celebrate and I don't want you ruining it"! Or "I have to get dressed as I want to greet our guests". This is what she had hoped for with the jewelery line, to be more successful than Ana. She's a cheshire cat, purring that is she basking in the glory of the pret-a-porter line. Confident that no spit will land on her. She is such a distasteful, arrogant, maligning witch, I could beat her if I could force my fist throught the TV!!
I did too love Petro. I think he was brazenly in a halfwitted way of his, making his feelings known about many things. I think he feels vindicated when he found Enrique and Patricia together, like he has a plan now to get back at Enrique. Probably won't amount to anything because the detectives are onto him, but Petro had that look when he closed the door.
I also liked how Clara wanted to poke the bear, Christina, by asking if "Ana knows". She knows Ana doesn't but she wanted to see a reaction from Christina.
Marco is so estatic that he and Christina are on the same page. What an arrogant snot nosed devil. I can't wait when they find out Alberto is alive!! For that alone I can't wait!! It would be sublime if Alberto planned the taking over of Velvet and those people are really just a front for Alberto. The look on Christina and Marco's face if he buys Velvet back and they are out of Velvet! Christina having absolutely no control over Velvet any longer. No longer welcomed, shut out completely with no way to move back in!! YES!!! That would be the ultimate win for me!! I'll pray every night for that to happen. I would want that almost more than I want Alberto and Ana to get back together, almost! The icing on the cake would be if Ana and Alberto got married and it was front page news. The camera pans to Christina reading it, having an epic meltdown!!
Marco is going to feel the full brunt of reproach when his father hears what he has done. How can he not hear about it as it will be in the newspapers. Wasn't that why the press was there? One thing I'm sure about Enzo Caffiero is a decent guy. He'll be on Ana's side, because Ana was gold for Velvet. He'll knock that smirk off Marco's face. And if that doesn't happen than this is really poor writing and borders on mere fantasy than logic.
On what you said about Christina returning to dressing up. At the very beginning when we first saw Christina she was all matronly and drab looking. The moment she found out Alberto was alive she Let her hair down and started acting all girlish and confident. It kills me what a cliche she is. She pretended to be pregnant to keep Alberto forever at her side. Jealous, cruel, manipulating, and conniving.
I love Emilio. I think we all wish we had someone as loyal, and loving as Emilio is with Ana. It's a little bit fuzzy to me how Ana is going to support herself in a store that's partially controlled by Velvet, and may have to give up the rights to her designs if Enzo doesn't offer his support. I'm not sure if her contract would allow her taking anything or having some artistic rights to her designs. I have no idea what's going to come of all that. I'm sure she'll fight tooth and nail for her design and I'm sure Enzo Caffiero will have to know sooner or later regardless if Marco tries to keep him in the dark.
Enrique doesn't seem too happy with the sudden collusion between Marco and his Sister. I noticed he was a bit peeved he wasn't in on the parade, and Patricia mentioned his sister when the picture of Ana came on. I think we're going to see a bit a push back on Enrique's part before he is arrested on Valentin's death. Enrique's not ready to let Velvet go and there may still be a very interesting fight ahead of us on that part! And it may be with his sister!!
Oh, my heavens, I really can't wait for E9. Another week of listening to it in spanish wondering what the hell happened. But I'm confident you guys will keep me in the loop!! Thank you is all I can say for this blog and my trusted bloggers. Thank you!!
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Post by dalovelee on Nov 29, 2016 22:54:05 GMT -5
We fell in love with Alberto and Ana so we stick to this show but more and more the storyline wonders all over the places, some places like Cristina and Petra that I think it were completely useless and BS, some places like Raul/Humberto, Pedro/Rita , Mateo/Clara were really good but not fully developed so far. 3 more episodes left but the production team is talking about a final final movie or show, r you kidding me ! Do they mean we are going to hate the ending? Is the ending so unsatisfactory they have to make a final final one? I totally agree. There were a lot of storylines to make up for the absence of Alberto and where some of them were poignant (Rita having cancer) some were funny (the actor vs Raul) ..the three evil stepsister like in a fairy tale Cristina, Marco and Carlos against Ana is dragging too much. I've completely lost interest in Patricia and Enrique. I actually think on hindsight that since the producers knew MAS would be out for most of the season...They should have found another actor who was just as charming, handsome and sexy and would makes our heart beat faster to make us all feel yes ANA GO with him..And THEN when Alberto (MAS) does return..we the viewers would also be torn thinking should she go with the new guy or does Alberto and her still have magical chemistry and they stay together. Right now it's angry knowing Alberto is not there and every corner the scorpions (Cristina, Marco and Carlos ) are plotting against her. The idea that Ana would marry Carlos is infuriating. OMG..I was so mad that Carlos and Cristina put on that parade fashion show of Ana's work and tried to take credit for it. That's a horrible thing to do to a designer or artist. It doesn't make sense that Raul was no where to be found and he would have done everything possible to stop it..SO I guess they came up with that plot to have him go to Paris to help Jonas...
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Post by ladyfromcanada on Nov 29, 2016 23:09:41 GMT -5
I've said this before. Raul seems disconnected to all the events happening at Velvet. He didn't know about Rita till later. He didn't know that Marco was putting on a parade of Ana's Pret-a-Porter line even though Jonas and Petro knew while they were talking to him. I mean hell, all the staff knew!!! In season 3, they shared the news about everything, now they don't. How inconvenient it was for Raul to be in Paris when all this is happening! Raul used to be part of the story now he's in his own little world, set off from the rest! It's truly poor writing that Ana doesn't have anyone in power, other than Mateo on her side.
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Post by Lara on Nov 29, 2016 23:28:02 GMT -5
Oh Lara everything you said I agreed with. Christina wants to be Ana. I just watch part 2 and I was so offended by Christina. When she was bullying Petro and Jonas she said something to the affect "I have a parade to celebrate and I don't want you ruining it"! Or "I have to get dressed as I want to greet our guests". This is what she had hoped for with the jewelery line, to be more successful than Ana. She's a cheshire cat, purring that is she basking in the glory of the pret-a-porter line. Confident that no spit will land on her. She is such a distasteful, arrogant, maligning witch, I could beat her if I could force my fist throught the TV!! I did too love Petro. I think he was brazenly in a halfwitted way of his, making his feelings known about many things. I think he feels vindicated when he found Enrique and Patricia together, like he has a plan now to get back at Enrique. Probably won't amount to anything because the detectives are onto him, but Petro had that look when he closed the door. I also liked how Clara wanted to poke the bear, Christina, by asking if "Ana knows". She knows Ana doesn't but she wanted to see a reaction from Christina. Marco is so estatic that he and Christina are on the same page. What an arrogant snot nosed devil. I can't wait when they find out Alberto is alive!! For that alone I can't wait!! It would be sublime if Alberto planned the taking over of Velvet and those people are really just a front for Alberto. The look on Christina and Marco's face if he buys Velvet back and they are out of Velvet! Christina having absolutely no control over Velvet any longer. No longer welcomed, shut out completely with no way to move back in!! YES!!! That would be the ultimate win for me!! I'll pray every night for that to happen. I would want that almost more than I want Alberto and Ana to get back together, almost! The icing on the cake would be if Ana and Alberto got married and it was front page news. The camera pans to Christina reading it, having an epic meltdown!! Marco is going to feel the full brunt of reproach when his father hears what he has done. How can he not hear about it as it will be in the newspapers. Wasn't that why the press was there? One thing I'm sure about Enzo Caffiero is a decent guy. He'll be on Ana's side, because Ana was gold for Velvet. He'll knock that smirk off Marco's face. And if that doesn't happen than this is really poor writing and borders on mere fantasy than logic. On what you said about Christina returning to dressing up. At the very beginning when we first saw Christina she was all matronly and drab looking. The moment she found out Alberto was alive she Let her hair down and started acting all girlish and confident. It kills me what a cliche she is. She pretended to be pregnant to keep Alberto forever at her side. Jealous, cruel, manipulating, and conniving. I love Emilio. I think we all wish we had someone as loyal, and loving as Emilio is with Ana. It's a little bit fuzzy to me how Ana is going to support herself in a store that's partially controlled by Velvet, and may have to give up the rights to her designs if Enzo doesn't offer his support. I'm not sure if her contract would allow her taking anything or having some artistic rights to her designs. I have no idea what's going to come of all that. I'm sure she'll fight tooth and nail for her design and I'm sure Enzo Caffiero will have to know sooner or later regardless if Marco tries to keep him in the dark. Enrique doesn't seem too happy with the sudden collusion between Marco and his Sister. I noticed he was a bit peeved he wasn't in on the parade, and Patricia mentioned his sister when the picture of Ana came on. I think we're going to see a bit a push back on Enrique's part before he is arrested on Valentin's death. Enrique's not ready to let Velvet go and there may still be a very interesting fight ahead of us on that part! Oh, my heavens, I really can't wait for E9. Another week of listening to it in spanish wondering what the hell happened. But I'm confident you guys will keep me in the loop!! Thank you is all I can say for this blog and my trusted bloggers. Thank you!! Lady, your killing me 😆 I would join you in sticking my fist through the screen and punching Cristina. You're right, that is exactly what she wanted for the jewelry line. When she had to put in real work, she couldn't do it. She's only good at ordering other people around to do the actual work. She always wanted to be more valuable to the store than Ana, since that will never happen, she just inserted herself into Ana's place. She really looked like the cat who ate the canary. I agree, a lightbulb went off when Pedro saw Enrique and Patricia. Though I'm not sure why no one noticed their relationship before, but this season they've been so much more obvious I guess. I wonder if that will figure into plans down the line. He could also testify to the affair, since he basically saw them kissing. Yeah, Clara was great in that scene and she, unlike Cristina, knows how to make underhanded comments in a very stealth way. Cristina beats you over the head with the arrogant face and line delivery. Even in the early seasons when she was being nice, there was an underlying arrogance whenever she spoke. I think I could have had sympathy for her if she really did seem so naive and not bitchy, but she always seemed like the biggest narcissist to me. Her sweet routine seemed put on for the benefit of Alberto. He wouldn't be with a nasty woman, look at his disdain for Barbara, so she adjusted her personality to appear to be the perfect woman for him. That or the actress can't even hide her bitchiness. What I would LOVE is for Alberto and Ana to go back to their roots. Have Alberto play into Cristina's obsession and lead her to believe that he wants her to come to NY to be with him and convince her to sell her shares of Velvet and leave Madrid behind. When she does, bam, Alberto was the secret buyer. Bye Cristina👋🏼 She'd die! The reason this won't happen is because there are only 2 eps he's in and who wants them wasted on Cristina. I'm with you though, I want to see Cristina out of Velvet and away from Alberto and Ana even more than wanting to see Ana and Alberto together! They have succeeded in taking the focus off A/A and onto Cristina. If Alberto gets the store back there is no question Cristina has to be out. That is what she constantly lorded over Ana, that she was part owner and her boss. What I keep going back to is that the show thus far has been reluctant to get rid of this character or even punish her. I think the show will end with Alberto and Ana leaving, either to NY or elsewhere. I do believe he will get ownership back because one of the saddest plots of the show was when he had to give up shares to Gerardo to marry Cristina, oh if he only knew what a disaster that would be become. Then he was stuck with the Oteguis forever. Wth was he thinking? Anyway, having him get ownership back and them out is the only way to rectify that situation, but since he won't be there to have interaction with her, they might just say what the hell and allow her to keep the shares, especially if they bring the show back. They just won't dump this character!!! As for Marco, I don't think he gives a shit about Velvet. His feud with Ana makes no sense and I think he just wants to go back to Italy. How he will get screwed is his father losing respect for his ability to adequately manage his businesses after his personal attacks on Ana. I think Ana has to give up Aurorita's. Velvet pays the rent on it, that's why I never understand why Ana fought so hard and allowed Carlos to use his own money to remodel it. It's not hers! Her quitting Velvet will just coincide with Alberto coming back. If he gets Velvet back, she'll keep the rights to her designs. I noticed that too about Enrique. Marco just wants an ally and Enrique finally said something that made sense, what's good for Ana is good for Velvet! They are making money so who gives a crap about her winning awards. Marco wants a yes person and that's now Cristina. Remember she was the outsider when she first came back. Enrique never had a problem with Ana so his level of aggression towards her was always very odd. When Marco mentioned that Enrique was interested in the broader business in Italy it made more sense why he wanted to be in Marco's good graces. Cristina obviously has her own vendetta against Ana, so her teaming up with Marco makes more sense than Enrique did.
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Post by Kathryn on Nov 30, 2016 0:47:25 GMT -5
Hi!
i am hardcore fan of Velvet! While I wait for episode 9, I'm looking for Grand Hotel videos with subtitle link, anyone?
thank you kindly.
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Post by Mateooo on Dec 24, 2016 7:50:50 GMT -5
Welcome to the Discussion Thread for Episode 4x8 of VELVET!
Discuss the episode here, and follow the board's Twitter account for LIVE updates as the show is airing in Spain! Want Velvet with ENGLISH SUBTITLES? Check back here in a few days for VV's (Admin's) subtitled episode! NOTE: This thread is exclusively for the eighth episode of Season 4 of Velvet...to avoid spoiling anyone, please don't refer to ANY SPOILERS OR BEHIND THE SCENES PICTURES for the rest of the season. Keep your comments strictly focused on what aired in this episode. If you want to talk about spoilers, please post in the spoiler thread!WHEN TO WATCH THE EPISODE AS IT'S AIRING IN SPAIN
The episode will air in Spain on Wednesday, November 23, at 22:40-ish (10:40-ish PM). The most common U.S. timezones are listed below: Eastern Time: 4:40-ish PM Central Time: 3:40-ish PM Mountain Time: 2:40-ish PM Pacific Time: 1:40-ish PM WHERE TO WATCH THE EPISODE AS IT'S AIRING IN SPAIN (Note: If you elect to watch live, please remember that there won't be English subtitles on the initial Spanish airing.) If you click this link you'll be taken to a free livestream which will allow you to watch Antena 3 as if you're in Spain. IMPORTANT NOTE: When you click on the little gray "X" boxes to close the ads on the page, new ads in new windows may pop up. If that happens, just close the windows -- don't sign up for anything, don't download anything, don't click anything that says "log in."
Just let the stream play. If the stream doesn't work, google "antena 3 spain live stream" and you should see other options. Again, don't download anything and don't sign up for anything -- just click the little "x" buttons over the ads, and if new windows pop up, just close them. WHERE TO WATCH THE EPISODE AFTER IT HAS AIRED IN SPAIN
Please see VV's post here for instructions about how to view the episode on Antena 3's website. WHERE AND WHEN TO WATCH THE EPISODE *WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES*:
The board's administrator, VV, is going to be adding English subtitles within a few days of the episode's airing. Links will be posted here and on VV's Tumblr when the subtitled episode is available. Velvet 4x8 "Prêt-à-porter" English Title: "Ready-to-Wear"
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Post by Mateooo on Dec 24, 2016 7:52:54 GMT -5
how long until the English subtitles for this episode? 😊
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Post by tropikaldawl on Dec 26, 2016 19:03:14 GMT -5
how long until the English subtitles for this episode? 😊 It's been around for about a month, check the tumblr page!
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Post by Amadrid on Jun 6, 2017 18:14:12 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me what song tack do they play for the fashion show?? Is it the Beatles? I have to know I love that song and can't find anywhere!
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