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Post by Blatina on Nov 16, 2016 22:44:10 GMT -5
Quick recap for those who weren't able to watch live: * Mateo got the magazine and letter from Alberto and immediately started investigating where it came from. He's learned about the company Silk, in New York. And I think in the previews (I was sort of enraged by the Patricia stuff, so I wasn't paying much attention) there's a scene of Mateo seeing a news article that talks about Alberto or something. * Valentin was taken to the hospital, where he stayed in a coma for days/weeks. Enrique admitted to Patricia that he shot Valentin out of jealousy, and then Patricia set it up so Enrique could go in and smother Valentin to death, which Enrique did at the end of the episode. * Petra has left town, but not without hinting about Emilio and Blanca getting together. Also, the guys helped to rebuild Ana's store, and it looks great. * Rita has recovered and there were some nice scenes with her getting back to Velvet and spending time with Ana and Clara. * There's a subplot involving Cristina, Marco, and a new cosmetics line, but I found that hard to follow without knowing Spanish. VV or alfi can give more information on it. * Raul, Pedro, Jonas, and Humberto played in a soccer match and when they won, Raul kissed Humberto, who was really affected by it. * There was some Ana/Carlos stuff that, again, alfi or VV will have to give details on. I'm happy Mateo is investigating the mysterious letter from "Alberto". Hopefully , the next episode will show him getting in contact with Alberto (yea i know, its a long stretch). I don't like the fact that they killed Valentin. He legitimately loved Patricia and she's been cheating on him since day 1. She's is just as bad as Enrique, maybe even worse. This whole Carlos and Christina thing needs to end. I hope Ana wakes up and realizes somethings not right with him. BRING ALBERTO BACK ASAP!!
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Post by northboundtrain on Nov 16, 2016 22:47:49 GMT -5
Marco is using the new cosmetic line to try to boycott Ana Pret-a-porter release, first he tries to buy the space in Mateo's magazine using a ploy, but Mateo discovers that and he is going to support Ana and still publish the pret-a-porter against the magazine's owner will... so he is putting his job at stake for Ana and her project. Marco understands Mateo intentions so he tries to flood spanish press with the cosmetic launch news to try to outshine Mateo efforts. Thanks, alfi. Marco is slime. But not as slimy as... I wish there were a way to know how far in advance the writers/production team knew that GO was planning to leave. If he just sprang it on them, then, fine, whatever, they did the best job they could. But if they knew before they planned the story out...that's awful. With a five year jump, there were numerous ways to write Valentin out and numerous other stories to explore with Patricia as a rich widow or as an escapee from an annulled marriage. I'm so upset about the Patricia stuff that I don't even care about Cristina anymore. So...I guess that's something. Cristina planning Ana's wedding makes me want to puke!!!! I don't understand why Ana is desperate to find a father for Alberto jnr????When she learns of Carlos true colors it's not going to be pretty. I think it's a mixture of things...certainly, I think she feels guilt that her son doesn't have a father (we could go all the way back to Ana dumping Alberto at the Airsa party for that one), but it seems like she may be using him as an excuse...like she feels the need to explain herself to Clara/Rita, and "My son needs a father" is an easy way to do it. That one's harder to argue with than "Well, I'm not in love with him, but I've just decided to settle." I really hope Enrique and Patricia get what they deserve cause honestly it would be so beyond bitter and wrong if they lived happily after getting away with murder! :{ I'm totally preparing myself for them to get away with it. What's so aggravating is that Patricia was one of my favorites and I didn't care about Valentin one bit...and now, the writers have me rooting for her to get caught. Sorry northbound about Patricia arc, not one single scene with Alberto Jr was a really bad omen... Yeah, I was talking with VV about this on Twitter during the show...we could have had a story with Patricia bonding with Ana and little Alberto, Jr., and instead we got...this. It's sad because I always saw Patricia as a gray character -- she could be vindictive, jealous, quick to anger, manipulative.... But in the previous seasons, I never saw anything from her that would have allowed me to anticipate what we saw in today's episode. I just wish there'd been some sort of justification for it, at least. Like, if Valentin had been an abusive husband...that, I would have an easier time understanding. But he was a harmless dork. He didn't do anything wrong. And Enrique is reprehensible. And now Patricia's on his level. I just...ugh. I watched the stream live, but I missed Raul kissing Humberto! Oh boy, I need to rewatch. I missed it too because I think I was typing on Twitter or something, so I had clicked away from the screen, and when I clicked back, I saw Humberto touching his lips and I couldn't figure out what had happened. Then I saw that the Velvet Twitter account posted a gif of Raul grabbing Humberto and kissing him. If it weren't for the damn Patricia stuff ruining my mood, I'd be a lot happier about it, because I do think AL and AE have chemistry. EXACTLY. I've said this before, and I'll say it again -- something changed in S3. Because the writers spent S3 fleshing Patricia out more, building her relationship with Ana, showing her mourn Alberto.... And now she's like a different character. I used to want a Patricia spin-off where she runs Velvet. Not anymore.
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Post by northboundtrain on Nov 16, 2016 22:51:54 GMT -5
I don't like the fact that they killed Valentin. He legitimately loved Patricia and she's been cheating on him since day 1. She's is just as bad as Enrique, maybe even worse. I actually think she is worse than Enrique in this case. Enrique may have been the one who committed the murder, but he's nothing to Valentin. Patricia was Valentin's wife, and she always looked to me like she had more of a conscience than Enrique. So for her to do this IN SPITE of that conscience is just...awful. It really does make her look worse.
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Post by primusoars on Nov 16, 2016 23:45:08 GMT -5
Marco is using the new cosmetic line to try to boycott Ana Pret-a-porter release, first he tries to buy the space in Mateo's magazine using a ploy, but Mateo discovers that and he is going to support Ana and still publish the pret-a-porter against the magazine's owner will... so he is putting his job at stake for Ana and her project. Marco understands Mateo intentions so he tries to flood spanish press with the cosmetic launch news to try to outshine Mateo efforts. Thanks, alfi. Marco is slime. But not as slimy as... I wish there were a way to know how far in advance the writers/production team knew that GO was planning to leave. If he just sprang it on them, then, fine, whatever, they did the best job they could. But if they knew before they planned the story out...that's awful. With a five year jump, there were numerous ways to write Valentin out and numerous other stories to explore with Patricia as a rich widow or as an escapee from an annulled marriage. I'm so upset about the Patricia stuff that I don't even care about Cristina anymore. So...I guess that's something. Cristina planning Ana's wedding makes me want to puke!!!! I don't understand why Ana is desperate to find a father for Alberto jnr????When she learns of Carlos true colors it's not going to be pretty. I think it's a mixture of things...certainly, I think she feels guilt that her son doesn't have a father (we could go all the way back to Ana dumping Alberto at the Airsa party for that one), but it seems like she may be using him as an excuse...like she feels the need to explain herself to Clara/Rita, and "My son needs a father" is an easy way to do it. That one's harder to argue with than "Well, I'm not in love with him, but I've just decided to settle." I really hope Enrique and Patricia get what they deserve cause honestly it would be so beyond bitter and wrong if they lived happily after getting away with murder! :{ I'm totally preparing myself for them to get away with it. What's so aggravating is that Patricia was one of my favorites and I didn't care about Valentin one bit...and now, the writers have me rooting for her to get caught. Sorry northbound about Patricia arc, not one single scene with Alberto Jr was a really bad omen... Yeah, I was talking with VV about this on Twitter during the show...we could have had a story with Patricia bonding with Ana and little Alberto, Jr., and instead we got...this. It's sad because I always saw Patricia as a gray character -- she could be vindictive, jealous, quick to anger, manipulative.... But in the previous seasons, I never saw anything from her that would have allowed me to anticipate what we saw in today's episode. I just wish there'd been some sort of justification for it, at least. Like, if Valentin had been an abusive husband...that, I would have an easier time understanding. But he was a harmless dork. He didn't do anything wrong. And Enrique is reprehensible. And now Patricia's on his level. I just...ugh. I watched the stream live, but I missed Raul kissing Humberto! Oh boy, I need to rewatch. I missed it too because I think I was typing on Twitter or something, so I had clicked away from the screen, and when I clicked back, I saw Humberto touching his lips and I couldn't figure out what had happened. Then I saw that the Velvet Twitter account posted a gif of Raul grabbing Humberto and kissing him. If it weren't for the damn Patricia stuff ruining my mood, I'd be a lot happier about it, because I do think AL and AE have chemistry. EXACTLY. I've said this before, and I'll say it again -- something changed in S3. Because the writers spent S3 fleshing Patricia out more, building her relationship with Ana, showing her mourn Alberto.... And now she's like a different character. I used to want a Patricia spin-off where she runs Velvet. Not anymore. I am too not getting the Patricia /Enrique murder thing! I mean Enrique kill Valentin twice, once he was not successful try again. Jealous alone can't explain his action! Why Gerado have such horrible offsprings. Now this pair is going to bring a life to this world? Sad commentary to society.
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Post by Krys on Nov 17, 2016 0:27:25 GMT -5
I don't like the fact that they killed Valentin. He legitimately loved Patricia and she's been cheating on him since day 1. She's is just as bad as Enrique, maybe even worse. I actually think she is worse than Enrique in this case. Enrique may have been the one who committed the murder, but he's nothing to Valentin. Patricia was Valentin's wife, and she always looked to me like she had more of a conscience than Enrique. So for her to do this IN SPITE of that conscience is just...awful. It really does make her look worse. Ugh, I feel the same.  I also loved that Patricia was a gray character, but I always had the impression there were lines she wouldn't cross. And now she did in today's episode. It's just so disappointing. What a waste of a character with such potential. Now we know that blonde!Patricia is vastly superior to redhead!Patricia. lol  The Oteguis are truly the worst of the worst. :/ I actually understand Ana settling for Carlos. She can most definitely do better, but he's there, he wants to take care of her and her child. Putting yourself out there is already scary enough and Ana clearly has no intention of falling in love again. To her knowledge, Carlos is safe and familiar and a good man. Security is enough for some people, especially when they have their children to think about, not just themselves.
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Post by Lara on Nov 17, 2016 7:27:10 GMT -5
I have to admit I am totally shocked about Valentin. I thought it would ambiguous and he would deny it, but for him and Patricia both to have blatantly kill him is unforgivable. Justice has to be served tonsllnthese characters! I would think Valenti's mother would suspicious, but after a mo nets she vanished.
Another thing that bothered me was that they seemed to gloss what happened to Pedro. It's very hard to believe that Marco would keep him at Velvet after all that happened, even if it is back to his old job. Pedro was on thin ice as it was. Rita's recovery also seemed to be too quick and no exploration how she feels about her new body.
As far as the note. I'm wondering why Alberto didn't out a return address if he's been trying and failing to contact them for years. If Mateo didn't have connections to investigate, how would have known where to respond?
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Post by Adrienne on Nov 17, 2016 10:19:45 GMT -5
I have to admit I am totally shocked about Valentin. I thought it would ambiguous and he would deny it, but for him and Patricia both to have blatantly kill him is unforgivable. Justice has to be served tonsllnthese characters! I would think Valenti's mother would suspicious, but after a mo nets she vanished. Another thing that bothered me was that they seemed to gloss what happened to Pedro. It's very hard to believe that Marco would keep him at Velvet after all that happened, even if it is back to his old job. Pedro was on thin ice as it was. Rita's recovery also seemed to be too quick and no exploration how she feels about her new body. As far as the note. I'm wondering why Alberto didn't out a return address if he's been trying and failing to contact them for years. If Mateo didn't have connections to investigate, how would have known where to respond? Not a fan of the Valentine/Patricia/Enrique storyline either! What a waste of such a potentially interesting character!!! I was hoping that the fallout from Pedro destroying the store would be addressed too. I feel like they could make him staying at his old post make sense if they addressed it, but just ignoring it doesn't work for me. (Like I could see Emilio and others stepping in siding with Pedro, and since they bribed him they're not in the best spot to take recourse.) I'm thinking Rita's recovery might still be a minor issue I upcoming episodes, but we'll see. LOVED Raul this episode!!! The drawing of the clothing in the plays that Jonas was trying to teach him was so funny! And I loved how he was the only one with his shirt tucked in his shorts. 😂😂 The football game storyline was the best part of the episode. Oh, and I'm not a fan of Emilio and Blanca possibly getting together. They just do not work as a romantic couple for me.
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Post by hopelessromantic on Nov 17, 2016 11:44:12 GMT -5
So I was reading somewhere not on this board..and somebody said something about Alberto reuniting with Ana and moving his family to the states since he has a businesses there..it will be his way of putting. Velvet and all the drama behind him. What do you all think? If you ask me ...I will say probably not. .Velvet is his father's legacy and family business..I believe he will rather buy it back from the Italians and rebuild. 2.I don't see Ana leaving all her friends and Don Emilio behind to move to the states. I am going to assume Alberto stays back in Spain..reuniting with his love and rebuilding. ..and managing other business in NYC. .minus the sleeping with his female clients..oh boy!!!😃😃😃
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Post by BK on Nov 17, 2016 11:50:21 GMT -5
I hate the Blanca-Emilio couple too. They've been hinting at it all season, and now that Petra has made it more overt, and Blanca seems to be making steps toward showing her interest, the whole thing is getting worse. Aren't they 25 years apart in age, if not more? They're just not credible together. They have zero romantic chemistry. Ugh.
I loved the totally zaniness of the soccer game, also. Raul "learning" the plays by turning them all into patterns was a crack up, and the detail of Humberto chain-smoking cigarette was great too. And Raul stashing his money in his underwear to buy off the referee (or, after Jonas forbid him from doing that, paying him to leave) was great too. The kiss was super-quick, in the heat of excitement after winning the game, but I was a little confused that in the preview for next week Humberto said he thinks he thinks he likes men. Didn't he already knew that? And he and Raul just were talking in code because homosexuality was illegal? I mean, the ways and number of times it came up seemed way too frequent and blatant to mean anything else--when Raul first brought it up, he said men were only bothered by who he was when they had some other issue, and Humberto answered that he couldn't be who people wanted him to be. How could that not reveal self-awareness? It is clear that he wasn't ready to act on it, at least in a meaningful way, while sober--Raul's line, when you're ready to "change your suit" I'll be here, was perfect innuendo--so maybe that's what the preview is talking about? But why did Humberto look so shocked after the kiss? Or do you think he wasn't shocked, so much as moved? Thoughts?
I don't get any of Alberto's actions, but it seems like he's not actually trying to get in touch if he didn't include a return address or phone number. If he's given up on writing to Ana, I'm guess he doesn't want news from that world--he just wants to congratulate Mateo. It makes no sense, but none of that storyline does. However, I think Mateo goes to New York next episode and, knowing about Silk, I don't see how he doesn't find Alberto. I think we see MAS at least briefly next week. Fingers crossed, not only for a return to the A/A relationship, but also for moving forward with a new thread in the plot. Not that there aren't consent events in each episode, but there haven't really been more than a couple of storylines and now that I think they're not so successful it's time for something altogether new. Though I'm also pleased that Humberto is back. That is promising!
Also, I guess it was on the spoiler/speculation page, but did any of you take Rita's constant missing of her children as a bad omen? I mean, she is supposedly going to see them very soon. Unless something terrible happens. So I think it foreshadows some relapse, and that any future hospital scene will involve Rita's cancer again.
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Post by Adrienne on Nov 17, 2016 12:32:52 GMT -5
I hate the Blanca-Emilio couple too. They've been hinting at it all season, and now that Petra has made it more overt, and Blanca seems to be making steps toward showing her interest, the whole thing is getting worse. Aren't they 25 years apart in age, if not more? They're just not credible together. They have zero romantic chemistry. Ugh. I loved the totally zaniness of the soccer game, also. Raul "learning" the plays by turning them all into patterns was a crack up, and the detail of Humberto chain-smoking cigarette was great too. And Raul stashing his money in his underwear to buy off the referee (or, after Jonas forbid him from doing that, paying him to leave) was great too. The kiss was super-quick, in the heat of excitement after winning the game, but I was a little confused that in the preview for next week Humberto said he thinks he thinks he likes men. Didn't he already knew that? And he and Raul just were talking in code because homosexuality was illegal? I mean, the ways and number of times it came up seemed way too frequent and blatant to mean anything else--when Raul first brought it up, he said men were only bothered by who he was when they had some other issue, and Humberto answered that he couldn't be who people wanted him to be. How could that not reveal self-awareness? It is clear that he wasn't ready to act on it, at least in a meaningful way, while sober--Raul's line, when you're ready to "change your suit" I'll be here, was perfect innuendo--so maybe that's what the preview is talking about? But why did Humberto look so shocked after the kiss? Or do you think he wasn't shocked, so much as moved? Thoughts? I don't get any of Alberto's actions, but it seems like he's not actually trying to get in touch if he didn't include a return address or phone number. If he's given up on writing to Ana, I'm guess he doesn't want news from that world--he just wants to congratulate Mateo. It makes no sense, but none of that storyline does. However, I think Mateo goes to New York next episode and, knowing about Silk, I don't see how he doesn't find Alberto. I think we see MAS at least briefly next week. Fingers crossed, not only for a return to the A/A relationship, but also for moving forward with a new thread in the plot. Not that there aren't consent events in each episode, but there haven't really been more than a couple of storylines and now that I think they're not so successful it's time for something altogether new. Though I'm also pleased that Humberto is back. That is promising! Also, I guess it was on the spoiler/speculation page, but did any of you take Rita's constant missing of her children as a bad omen? I mean, she is supposedly going to see them very soon. Unless something terrible happens. So I think it foreshadows some relapse, and that any future hospital scene will involve Rita's cancer again. About Humberto, it seems like you can kind of know on one level that you are different and not being true to yourself, but actually admitting that you are gay is a whole other step, especially if you live in a society that is not accepting of that fact. I live in Utah and until a couple of years ago was a devout Mormon. I've read and listened to a lot of stories about LGBTQ people in the mormon community (which is very conservative and anti LGBTQ), and they might "know" on some level that they are LGBTQ. but taking that next step of accepting yourself and admitting it is a whole different thing. I guess I'm just saying that I actually think that is very true to life, especially given a society that is not accepting of those who might be outside of the norm. I kind of hope Rita's recovery isn't completely over. I don't want a relapse or anything serious, I just think they can touch on her having a hard time adjusting post surgery. I like when story lines maybe come and go in waves. It feels more real to life. (Velvet's not very real to life, though!) 
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Post by primusoars on Nov 17, 2016 14:09:07 GMT -5
I have to admit I am totally shocked about Valentin. I thought it would ambiguous and he would deny it, but for him and Patricia both to have blatantly kill him is unforgivable. Justice has to be served tonsllnthese characters! I would think Valenti's mother would suspicious, but after a mo nets she vanished. Another thing that bothered me was that they seemed to gloss what happened to Pedro. It's very hard to believe that Marco would keep him at Velvet after all that happened, even if it is back to his old job. Pedro was on thin ice as it was. Rita's recovery also seemed to be too quick and no exploration how she feels about her new body. As far as the note. I'm wondering why Alberto didn't out a return address if he's been trying and failing to contact them for years. If Mateo didn't have connections to investigate, how would have known where to respond? It is true things are gloss over and made some kind of half hearted resolutions, it shows the producers and people work on the show can't wait to wrap it up ! No wonder the rating is bad. We are die heart Velvet watchers we have doubts about this seasons let alone someone come on the show the first time. One thing is really good about this series is actors are very very competent and their performances are great by every single one of them. The storylines are inadequate right at the beginning of the season, I was hoping it will get better but so far is gotten worse. I just can't believe Enrique has to kill Valentin twice, if he has other project, he has to move on, just murder him once that's enough. I notice no one in this forum use the word " murder" in Christina or Enrique's case. I wonder why? Is this word can't apply to high class individual? I hope someone can explain to me that this is not " murder"?
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Post by Adrienne on Nov 17, 2016 15:38:01 GMT -5
I have to admit I am totally shocked about Valentin. I thought it would ambiguous and he would deny it, but for him and Patricia both to have blatantly kill him is unforgivable. Justice has to be served tonsllnthese characters! I would think Valenti's mother would suspicious, but after a mo nets she vanished. Another thing that bothered me was that they seemed to gloss what happened to Pedro. It's very hard to believe that Marco would keep him at Velvet after all that happened, even if it is back to his old job. Pedro was on thin ice as it was. Rita's recovery also seemed to be too quick and no exploration how she feels about her new body. As far as the note. I'm wondering why Alberto didn't out a return address if he's been trying and failing to contact them for years. If Mateo didn't have connections to investigate, how would have known where to respond? It is true things are gloss over and made some kind of half hearted resolutions, it shows the producers and people work on the show can't wait to wrap it up ! No wonder the rating is bad. We are die heart Velvet watchers we have doubts about this seasons let alone someone come on the show the first time. One thing is really good about this series is actors are very very competent and their performances are great by every single one of them. The storylines are inadequate right at the beginning of the season, I was hoping it will get better but so far is gotten worse. I just can't believe Enrique has to kill Valentin twice, if he has other project, he has to move on, just murder him once that's enough. I notice no one in this forum use the word " murder" in Christina or Enrique's case. I wonder why? Is this word can't apply to high class individual? I hope someone can explain to me that this is not " murder"? I have no problem calling what Enrique did murder. I'm not entirely sure what you are referring to with Christina. I'm guessing the pushing Ana down the stairs and the attack with scissors? That to me didn't necessarily feel like she was trying to murder Ana, but going into a violent rage. If she had ended up killing Ana I would call it murder. Enrique was very cold and calculated, where as Christina I didn't feel like really had a plan. I think almost anyone can be driven to violence if pushed the right way and will sometimes respond without thinking. Intentionally plotting someones death is different to me and takes a certain kind of person. (Not justifying Christina here.)
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Post by BK on Nov 17, 2016 16:08:19 GMT -5
About Humberto, it seems like you can kind of know on one level that you are different and not being true to yourself, but actually admitting that you are gay is a whole other step, especially if you live in a society that is not accepting of that fact. I live in Utah and until a couple of years ago was a devout Mormon. I've read and listened to a lot of stories about LGBTQ people in the mormon community (which is very conservative and anti LGBTQ), and they might "know" on some level that they are LGBTQ. but taking that next step of accepting yourself and admitting it is a whole different thing. I guess I'm just saying that I actually think that is very true to life, especially given a society that is not accepting of those who might be outside of the norm. I kind of hope Rita's recovery isn't completely over. I don't want a relapse or anything serious, I just think they can touch on her having a hard time adjusting post surgery. I like when story lines maybe come and go in waves. It feels more real to life. (Velvet's not very real to life, though!) Both very good points!
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Post by hopelessromantic on Nov 17, 2016 16:20:59 GMT -5
Thanks, alfi. Marco is slime. But not as slimy as... I wish there were a way to know how far in advance the writers/production team knew that GO was planning to leave. If he just sprang it on them, then, fine, whatever, they did the best job they could. But if they knew before they planned the story out...that's awful. With a five year jump, there were numerous ways to write Valentin out and numerous other stories to explore with Patricia as a rich widow or as an escapee from an annulled marriage. I'm so upset about the Patricia stuff that I don't even care about Cristina anymore. So...I guess that's something. I think it's a mixture of things...certainly, I think she feels guilt that her son doesn't have a father (we could go all the way back to Ana dumping Alberto at the Airsa party for that one), but it seems like she may be using him as an excuse...like she feels the need to explain herself to Clara/Rita, and "My son needs a father" is an easy way to do it. That one's harder to argue with than "Well, I'm not in love with him, but I've just decided to settle." I'm totally preparing myself for them to get away with it. What's so aggravating is that Patricia was one of my favorites and I didn't care about Valentin one bit...and now, the writers have me rooting for her to get caught. Yeah, I was talking with VV about this on Twitter during the show...we could have had a story with Patricia bonding with Ana and little Alberto, Jr., and instead we got...this. It's sad because I always saw Patricia as a gray character -- she could be vindictive, jealous, quick to anger, manipulative.... But in the previous seasons, I never saw anything from her that would have allowed me to anticipate what we saw in today's episode. I just wish there'd been some sort of justification for it, at least. Like, if Valentin had been an abusive husband...that, I would have an easier time understanding. But he was a harmless dork. He didn't do anything wrong. And Enrique is reprehensible. And now Patricia's on his level. I just...ugh. I missed it too because I think I was typing on Twitter or something, so I had clicked away from the screen, and when I clicked back, I saw Humberto touching his lips and I couldn't figure out what had happened. Then I saw that the Velvet Twitter account posted a gif of Raul grabbing Humberto and kissing him. If it weren't for the damn Patricia stuff ruining my mood, I'd be a lot happier about it, because I do think AL and AE have chemistry. EXACTLY. I've said this before, and I'll say it again -- something changed in S3. Because the writers spent S3 fleshing Patricia out more, building her relationship with Ana, showing her mourn Alberto.... And now she's like a different character. I used to want a Patricia spin-off where she runs Velvet. Not anymore. I am too not getting the Patricia /Enrique murder thing! I mean Enrique kill Valentin twice, once he was not successful try again. Jealous alone can't explain his action! Why Gerado have such horrible offsprings. Now this pair is going to bring a life to this world? Sad commentary to society.
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Post by hopelessromantic on Nov 17, 2016 16:27:35 GMT -5
I am too not getting the Patricia /Enrique murder thing! I mean Enrique kill Valentin twice, once he was not successful try again. Jealous alone can't explain his action! Why Gerado have such horrible offsprings. Now this pair is going to bring a life to this world? Sad commentary to society. Jealousy is a dangerous emotion....it's enough to make people loose their minds.The story line isn't far fetched...Enrique framed Raul and got him fired...He constantly humiliates his wife by sleeping with Patricia..very jealous of Alberto and undermines him..Patricia is no angel..she back stabbed Alberto buisnesswise..thwarted his relationship with Ana..I could go on!!!They deserve each other and I hope they both rot in hell..They had it coming.😡
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