The Anti-Thread (Post your concerns about the show here)

Patricia has always been wasted as a character. I really can't believe they actually kept her with Enrique all 4 seasons and stripped her of all power at Velvet. Next ep's preview seems like Enrique will take the fall for the the Pedro thing, even though we know he's Marco's henchman. Patricia kisses him in the elevator, I'm not sure of it's before or after finding out. To be honest, I'm not sure finding out will even play a role for Patricia. Everyone is so detached this season. Has Raul even spoken to Ana at all to see how it's going with Cristina? It's just so weird. Anyway, Patricia should be pissed at what they did to Ana, if nothing else because of her nephew, but there is no relationship there. I don't think Patricia will have any sort of big reunion with Alberto because as the eps tick off, it becomes apparent he is barely in it.

Another thing I can't stand is how Cristina was able to come back like nothing happened. In ep 3 the switch was flipped in every area back to her evilness. When Patricia said the Italians can put them on the street (which is so true and I wish Ana would realize this) Cristina responded with something like she doesn't worry about that because she has shares. I wish she would take her shares and shove them up her you know what. Sadly, Patricia couldn't even respond. Patricia has been building the Velvet brand for years and Cristina just swoops in and takes over because she's a rich snobby entitled bitch. Cristina has been winning for far too long and even if she finally gets what's coming to her it won't be satisfying because it will come at the very end and it will be off screen. What is the point of that? Usually in shows there are ups and downs, in this show mainly all the ups have been Cristina's. We've never gotten to see A/A happy, not even when they knew he was leaving! Now we have a completely different Ana that in my mind may no longer be compatible with Alberto. Alberto is frozen in S3, unfortunately Ana isn't and her character has been destroyed in S4.

amh- The Velvet people can't be trusted. They kept saying muy pronto that the show was coming back for over a month before it did. They want to keep interest up, but it's doing the reverse. With each passing episode of the sameness, my interest in waning. I didn't even finish the last ep with the subs and I probably won't watch this entire latest one with subs either. I love Alberto which is why I'm still watching, but that interest is even falling because I'm not going to be able to accept what they're shoveling at face value. They really can't have a lead couple be apart for this long, then suddenly come together, especially in the manner they wrote him off. That's why I was open to Mateo and Ana, good chemistry and the actors are fully committed to the show. The show saddled themselves to a dead horse, the Carlos s/l, and we are paying the price of that. I don't think Alberto will see Ana until at least ep 9.

season three is on now

It's not fair, but it wouldn't surprise me. This season has been very off, so who knows what will happen. Oh, I am so hoping that C/C will fade into the background, except to get the harshest of punishments. I remember being so happy they dispensed with Cristina about 20 minutes into the S3 finale. I still question the point of bringing her back this season, she wasn't necessary at all. In fact the show would have been a lot better without her. I saw something a few weeks ago saying that PE implied that they will see what will happen this season and *maybe* bring it back. I don't put much weight into the post, because in totally contradicts everything that's been said. However, if it were to come back, even retitled, I would hope they finally cut loose the Otegui dead weight.

I don't like how MAS' absence is always the excuse, I agree that many things could've been handled better. I think this is true regardless of MAS' absence.

What bugs me the most is the thing that just don't make sense and are not realistic.
Some examples:
- Why did Marco become a bad guy in season 4 - that came out of nowhere, he was only adversarial towards Mateo, but that was from their boyish days and they could have overcome that to become great friends with all they had in common. Marco didn't exude any business savvy in season 4 (against new ideas that were best for company, etc.) whereas he was rational in season 3 (he was brought in to avoid the pettiness involving Oteguis and others
- Why did they make Clara and Mateo break up after they got married? Makes no sense... I guess they just wanted to replay the act of them being sassy with each other and getting together?
- Why did they completely ignore the connection between Patricia and Marco and their ability to both speak Italian
- Why didn't they show Clara advancing in her career in 5 years? and why did they make her get with Marco? Surely that should've have at least garnered her some type of promotion...
- What happened to the letter Adele wrote and sent to Alberto in episode 1
- Why did Gloria disappear all of a sudden when she did.. the reason was very weak... and her potential relationship with Don Gerardo could have been explored too
- Why do they make Raul seem second rate now that Ana is around
- Why did Jonas all of a sudden want to become a designer, when in the past he was very clear that he had no desire/talent for design, and just liked to sew (when they sewed for Dona Aurorita's shop). Also, it's curious that Ana didn't go to design school like the men.
- ...

Luckily the music and the characters make me forget about a lot of these things

i just finished watching season 4 - what A disappointment . why did he have to go film sense8. a/a is the glue that holds the series together. of the 11 hours maybe 2 hours worth seeing ?

I just binged watch Season 4 on Netflix. This season Ana is sporting a short hair do. But the very last scene her hair is in an updo. Looks like she has longer hair like they made the scene in a prior season and decided to edit it into the last scene. Also Ana looks younger in the last scene than all of Season 4. What the heck.