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Post by debmac on Oct 26, 2016 22:11:06 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me what Carlos was telling Alberto Junior when they were at the bus stop? I haven't even watch the episode but just knowing creepy Carlos is acting all father figure to Alberto Jr. makes me angry  ..WHEN IS ALBERTO COMING BACK! Get your son away from this awful man! The waiting is driving me loco...lol We need Alberto back. ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ I think Alberto Jr. and Sr. Will bond nicely. Because from the look of things, although he is presumed dead, Ana still made him apart of Jr's life.
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Post by dalovelee on Oct 26, 2016 22:39:05 GMT -5
I haven't even watch the episode but just knowing creepy Carlos is acting all father figure to Alberto Jr. makes me angry  ..WHEN IS ALBERTO COMING BACK! Get your son away from this awful man! The waiting is driving me loco...lol We need Alberto back. ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ I think Alberto Jr. and Sr. Will bond nicely. Because from the look of things, although he is presumed dead, Ana still made him apart of Jr's life. The tough part is Alberto Jr. naturally looks to Carlos as a father figure good guy...Whereas we know he's creepy. And when he finally sees his real father Alberto..He hasn't yet bonded to him like he has with Carlos...so that will be interesting how the writers handle this and what the scenes will be.
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Post by primusoars on Oct 26, 2016 23:05:27 GMT -5
It wasn't very exciting, but some stories did move forward. It's hard to get super specific because I'm waiting for VV's subs, but the gist was this: * Carlos and Cristina continued plotting and then at the end of the episode Carlos proposed to Ana. * Rita finally told Clara that she has cancer, but she hasn't told Pedro yet. * There was some conflict between Pedro and Jonas over Jonas' desire to be a tailor over manager, and Pedro got in trouble with Marco over it, too. * Humberto got drunk and almost ruined the menswear collection presentation, and then Raul punched him out. * Patricia told Valentin that she is pregnant, and of course he assumes it's his baby. * Ana and Mateo toured the workroom they're making a deal with Petra on to use for Ana's ready-to-wear collection. * Mateo and Clara shared an embrace and Marco saw them and didn't look very happy about it. Thank you for the summary ....Now I must wait patiently for the subtitled versions! The end of episode 4 when Carlos toke Ana to see the workshop or her future business he setup for her, she was blindfolded in the car until they got to the place. This seems disconcerting to me. In the last 3 seasons every time Alberto wants to surprise Ana he blindfolded her. Why do they have to use the same idea for Carlos? It takes away the special moments the audience has for Alberto and Ana. IMO this is really dumb, are the writer trying to signal the audience this is really happening between Carlos and Ana as if we are not frustrated enough about A/A not able to be together. May be they think that making the storyline more difficult for A/A to get back together also makes the audiences have greater anticipation when they final are together. I feel there should be an balance, if you tease the audiences too long for an romantic ending but not spend enough time for the ending to be worth while to watch. We are not only dissatisfied but also feel cheated. I am still waiting for how this ending going to be!
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Post by Lara on Oct 26, 2016 23:30:01 GMT -5
Thank you for the summary ....Now I must wait patiently for the subtitled versions! The end of episode 4 when Carlos toke Ana to see the workshop or her future business he setup for her, she was blindfolded in the car until they got to the place. This seems disconcerting to me. In the last 3 seasons every time Alberto wants to surprise Ana he blindfolded her. Why do they have to use the same idea for Carlos? It takes away the special moments the audience has for Alberto and Ana. IMO this is really dumb, are the writer trying to signal the audience this is really happening between Carlos and Ana as if we are not frustrated enough about A/A not able to be together. May be they think that making the storyline more difficult for A/A to get back together also makes the audiences have greater anticipation when they final are together. I feel there should be an balance, if you tease the audiences too long for an romantic ending but not spend enough time for the ending to be worth while to watch. We are not only dissatisfied but also feel cheated. I am still waiting for how this ending going to be! I think they are trying to make the audience think there is a conflict and build excitement, but let's face it, there won't be. Just a bad storyline and season. I just watched part of the ep and I agree, the blind fold was shades of Alberto, but they just repeat everything over and over, so I don't even think they thought about it. What they are trying to build with anticipation is having the opposite effect on me. I'm starting not care as much. Judging by FB comments I'm not alone, people are fed up and are tired of the retread s/l. They should have never brought back bland Carlos, who she never had much chemistry with and given her another place holder love interest. Cristina, I don't even have to say it. Anything would have been better than this s/l.
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Post by Becky on Oct 27, 2016 2:25:47 GMT -5
Thank you so much for the summary!!! He was asking him what he thought of him always being able to walk him to the bus stop and buy him churros... and how he would like to live together in home with him marrying Ana (ugh!)
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Post by Becky on Oct 27, 2016 2:31:20 GMT -5
Thank you so much for the summary!!! He was asking him what he thought of him always being able to walk him to the bus stop and buy him churros... and how he would like to live together in home with him marrying Ana (ugh!) Sorry, accidentally replied to wrong post Wanted to answer what Carlos was telling Albertito at the bus stop.
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Post by Becky on Oct 27, 2016 2:35:19 GMT -5
Can't believe Caifiro is using poor Pedro to do his dirty work :/ Glad he saw Clara hugging Mateo!!
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Post by debmac on Oct 27, 2016 2:37:55 GMT -5
He was asking him what he thought of him always being able to walk him to the bus stop and buy him churros... and how he would like to live together in home with him marrying Ana (ugh!) Sorry, accidentally replied to wrong post Wanted to answer what Carlos was telling Albertito at the bus stop. Thanks...and what was Alberto Jr's response?
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Post by Indra on Oct 27, 2016 6:00:16 GMT -5
They are stalling too much. Esto no me gusta!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 7:05:45 GMT -5
Sorry, accidentally replied to wrong post Wanted to answer what Carlos was telling Albertito at the bus stop. Thanks...and what was Alberto Jr's response? Carlos tells him if he would like that he buys churros, because Jr loves them, and take him to the school every day. Jr answers that's impossible because he travels a lot, so Carlos tells him that would be possible if he and Ana were married so they would live together in a very big house. Alberto then answers that he likes living in the galleries which are biggest than any house and he can run as much as he wants. Carlos then argues that other kids live with their father and mother in a house, but Jr is not convinced and he answers that he lives with her mother and his grandfather, because his father can't come because he is in heaven. Carlos says for him then: Es verdad/It's true.
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Post by Guess on Oct 27, 2016 8:43:02 GMT -5
The end of episode 4 when Carlos toke Ana to see the workshop or her future business he setup for her, she was blindfolded in the car until they got to the place. This seems disconcerting to me. In the last 3 seasons every time Alberto wants to surprise Ana he blindfolded her. Why do they have to use the same idea for Carlos? It takes away the special moments the audience has for Alberto and Ana. IMO this is really dumb, are the writer trying to signal the audience this is really happening between Carlos and Ana as if we are not frustrated enough about A/A not able to be together. May be they think that making the storyline more difficult for A/A to get back together also makes the audiences have greater anticipation when they final are together. I feel there should be an balance, if you tease the audiences too long for an romantic ending but not spend enough time for the ending to be worth while to watch. We are not only dissatisfied but also feel cheated. I am still waiting for how this ending going to be! I think they are trying to make the audience think there is a conflict and build excitement, but let's face it, there won't be. Just a bad storyline and season. I just watched part of the ep and I agree, the blind fold was shades of Alberto, but they just repeat everything over and over, so I don't even think they thought about it. What they are trying to build with anticipation is having the opposite effect on me. I'm starting not care as much. Judging by FB comments I'm not alone, people are fed up and are tired of the retread s/l. They should have never brought back bland Carlos, who she never had much chemistry with and given her another place holder love interest. Cristina, I don't even have to say it. Anything would have been better than this s/l. Same here. It's getting to be a bit boring waiting in anticipation for Ana and Alberto's come back. The plotting of Carlos and Christina whether jointly is also getting too tiring
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Post by dalovelee on Oct 27, 2016 13:26:58 GMT -5
Thank you for the summary ....Now I must wait patiently for the subtitled versions! The end of episode 4 when Carlos toke Ana to see the workshop or her future business he setup for her, she was blindfolded in the car until they got to the place. This seems disconcerting to me. In the last 3 seasons every time Alberto wants to surprise Ana he blindfolded her. Why do they have to use the same idea for Carlos? It takes away the special moments the audience has for Alberto and Ana. IMO this is really dumb, are the writer trying to signal the audience this is really happening between Carlos and Ana as if we are not frustrated enough about A/A not able to be together. May be they think that making the storyline more difficult for A/A to get back together also makes the audiences have greater anticipation when they final are together. I feel there should be an balance, if you tease the audiences too long for an romantic ending but not spend enough time for the ending to be worth while to watch. We are not only dissatisfied but also feel cheated. I am still waiting for how this ending going to be! I agree 1000%. The blindfold moments belong to Alberto and Ana.. Don't start with muddying the waters making it a Carlos thing  . What next will these writers do.. have Carlos create paper airplanes for Ana! ....  .
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Post by Liz on Oct 27, 2016 14:55:37 GMT -5
The end of episode 4 when Carlos toke Ana to see the workshop or her future business he setup for her, she was blindfolded in the car until they got to the place. This seems disconcerting to me. In the last 3 seasons every time Alberto wants to surprise Ana he blindfolded her. Why do they have to use the same idea for Carlos? It takes away the special moments the audience has for Alberto and Ana. IMO this is really dumb, are the writer trying to signal the audience this is really happening between Carlos and Ana as if we are not frustrated enough about A/A not able to be together. May be they think that making the storyline more difficult for A/A to get back together also makes the audiences have greater anticipation when they final are together. I feel there should be an balance, if you tease the audiences too long for an romantic ending but not spend enough time for the ending to be worth while to watch. We are not only dissatisfied but also feel cheated. I am still waiting for how this ending going to be! I agree 1000%. The blindfold moments belong to Alberto and Ana.. Don't start with muddying the waters making it a Carlos thing  . What next will these writers do.. have Carlos create paper airplanes for Ana! ....  . I got upset and mad too when I saw Carlos had blindfolded Ana for her surprise!  . That was only supposed to be a special thing between her and Alberto!
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Post by Julia on Oct 27, 2016 19:46:21 GMT -5
Carlos was just trying to win him over. He asked him if he would like to live in a nice big house with his mother and a dad like a real family. He said he was sure his classmates talked about their families and wouldn't it be nice for Alberto to have one too. Alberto said he loved living in the galleria and he wouldn't want to grow up anywhere else. And is father was in heaven and was never coming back so basically it wouldn't ever happen but he was okay with that because his mother and grandpa loved him and were his family. Not in so many words but basically that's what Carlos was trying to manipulate Carlos to say he wanted a mom and dad and a real home to use that to convince Ana to marry him. Guess he thought she'd feel guilty if Alberto said he wanted a family like his classmates.
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Post by Kristin on Oct 27, 2016 22:15:54 GMT -5
Does anyone else wonder what the relationship with Patricia and Alberto Jr? I'm curious to know if there is any kind of connection or if she has stayed away all these years and not gotten to know him.
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