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Post by Lara on Oct 19, 2016 19:47:12 GMT -5
Ugh, I can't take much more of this show, it's gotten so dark from the first 2 seasons. It played out exactly like I thought, Cristina decided right then and there to keep it from Ana, she didn't even really need prodding from Carlos. She was never going to tell. She also had to to shut down Adele, who doesn't seem like the brightest bulb, from speaking to Ana. Why on earth is Adele not going to tell Alberto they all think he's dead and she told Cristina?  !!!! It makes no sense!!!!!! The proposal thing is what I expected from Carlos, because once Ana is legally married, he's never letting her out of it. As for Cristina, I hope they tell us more about her motivations for wanting a marriage, does she want to torment Alberto that the love of his life is married to someone else and Ana gets stuck in a loveless marriage after she knows Alberto is back. Ana could separate from Carlos but getting out of the marriage is another story. Another reason, which seems likely with nutcase Cristina, is that she thinks she can get Alberto back. Cristina's obsession with Alberto is a symptom of a bigger issue, her narcissistic personality disorder, which I think the writer's were going for. Carlos is just pathetic, trapping a woman who doesn't love him into marriage. Both he and Cristina are evil and twisted. There is NO redemption for her, even if at the last minute she stops a C/A wedding, which I don't think will happen. She and Carlos both belong and at the bottom of the ocean. I'm hoping Ana will finally wise up, they are making her look so stupid. Ana needs to say no or drag out the decision. Alberto needs to come back ASAP. PS. Another thing I thought way back was that Carlos wrote Alberto under the guise of Ana and that's why he didn't come back to Madrid. It seems like a real possibility now. I'm a little surprised how predicable the show is so far 😝 Though the lack of phone calls is still a mystery. we know now why he didn't call Ann he think she is still mad at him that is why she is not writing him back. The mystery is mateo why he never got in touch with Mateo or even Raul I never thought I would say this, but I think it's a good thing the show is ending based on the last couple of seasons. Nothing has evolved or advanced in 4 seasons, they've just dumbed down Ana and it's just sad. The dumbing down of the whole show is sad actually. Alberto didn't know his flight to Cuba, the one Mateo thought he took, crashed? Remember Barbara saying Cristina would be Spain's widow? Yet nobody knew he was alive all this time? NY and European fashion capitals are linked and no one knew? He follows Ana's career, yet doesn't know she has a kid? MAS says he did write Mateo, let's see how they'll explain that. I don't have high hopes. Apparently Alberto can no longer use a phone. Adele tells him nothing of her time at Velvet? It's not the same show as it used to be. The jump was terrible and I'm sorry, the casting of Alberto Jr. was HORRENDOUS. He looks like Carlos and nothing like Alberto and it's hard not to notice. WTH were the casting people thinking? |
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Post by Camille on Oct 19, 2016 20:24:08 GMT -5
Lara, I haven't seen episod 3 yet so I'm clueless to what happened. I do not think Carlos wrote Alberto in deguise as Ana. A/A write enough notes on the paper planes to know each other's writing. I also disagree about Alberto Jr. that kid looks nothing like Carlos to me. They have similar coloring but they do no resemble in looks at all. I really do see Alberto in the young actor. As for Christina, she sickens me with her demented obsession of Alberto. Why can't she get over him; HE DOES NOT WANT HER. In this I completely agree with you. If Christina is plotting against A/A again, she is a lost cause and they need to lock her up and throw away the key. Enough is enough, point blank period.
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Post by Camille on Oct 19, 2016 20:26:55 GMT -5
Lara, I haven't seen episod 3 yet so I'm clueless to what happened. I do not think Carlos wrote Alberto in deguise as Ana. A/A write enough notes on the paper planes to know each other's writing. I also disagree about Alberto Jr. that kid looks nothing like Carlos to me. They have similar coloring but they do no resemble in looks at all. I really do see Alberto in the young actor. As for Christina, she sickens me with her demented obsession of Alberto. Why can't she get over him; HE DOES NOT WANT HER. In this I completely agree with you. If Christina is plotting against A/A again, she is a lost cause and they need to lock her up and throw away the key. Enough is enough, point blank period. Christina, I was responding to you post above thinking it was Lara, |
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Post by Christine on Oct 19, 2016 20:37:40 GMT -5
Lara, I haven't seen episod 3 yet so I'm clueless to what happened. I do not think Carlos wrote Alberto in deguise as Ana. A/A write enough notes on the paper planes to know each other's writing. I also disagree about Alberto Jr. that kid looks nothing like Carlos to me. They have similar coloring but they do no resemble in looks at all. I really do see Alberto in the young actor. As for Christina, she sickens me with her demented obsession of Alberto. Why can't she get over him; HE DOES NOT WANT HER. In this I completely agree with you. If Christina is plotting against A/A again, she is a lost cause and they need to lock her up and throw away the key. Enough is enough, point blank period. Christina, I was responding to you post above thinking it was Lara, Camille I don't think Carlos wrote back to Alberto . Alberto is under the empression that Ann is not answering his letters because she is still mad at him for sleeping with that girl can't remember her name from the airline he doesn't not know that everyone thinks he is dead I don't want to tell you what is in the letter |
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Post by amh08 on Oct 19, 2016 20:40:24 GMT -5
What’s in the letter?!?!
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Post by Christine on Oct 19, 2016 20:53:51 GMT -5
. Read Alfi posts he posted the letter |
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Post by Lara on Oct 19, 2016 21:11:09 GMT -5
Lara, I haven't seen episod 3 yet so I'm clueless to what happened. I do not think Carlos wrote Alberto in deguise as Ana. A/A write enough notes on the paper planes to know each other's writing. I also disagree about Alberto Jr. that kid looks nothing like Carlos to me. They have similar coloring but they do no resemble in looks at all. I really do see Alberto in the young actor. As for Christina, she sickens me with her demented obsession of Alberto. Why can't she get over him; HE DOES NOT WANT HER. In this I completely agree with you. If Christina is plotting against A/A again, she is a lost cause and they need to lock her up and throw away the key. Enough is enough, point blank period. I think it's possible or that she just didn't respond, but he thinks she is done with him either way. We'll have to agree to disagree on Jr., they had a scene with Carlos and he can Easily pass for his son. The coloring alone throws me off. Statistically two brown eyed parents have a 25% chance of having a blue eyed child if they carry the recessive gene from their parents. 1% of the parents and grandparents don't have blue eyes. Cristina's daughter also is blue eyed from two brown eyed parents. Seems very unlikely. Yes, Cristina has narcissistic personality disorder, that said why she can't let go of the obsession after all this time. The prize she wanted the most and she thought she deserved doesn't want her and it kills her. You should have seen her face when she read his letter, the Cristina we know and hate was back. I believe she slapped Carlos not because he lied about Alberto, but because that was 5 years she could've been stalking him. She wants Carlos to marry Ana and then they'll reveal about Alberto. That tells me she is dying to have Alberto back in her orbit because she could easily just stay quiet or find another way. Honestly, she and Carlos seem batshit crazy. It's rare, at least in my life, to come across someone like this, much less two of them. Cristina decided from jump not to tell Ana. Adele wanted to speak with her but Cristina said she would tell her. If we can't see her at the bottom of the ocean, I'm hoping for a straight jacket at the end. She and Carlos are two despicable characters. BTW, if anyone wants to watch the ep without the subtitles, it's up on Dailymotion already. |
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Post by primusoars on Oct 19, 2016 23:37:12 GMT -5
The episode is already available in Atresplayer, do not read if you want to wait to the subtitles... though i don't know what i'm saying this, you and me know that you are not going to resist the urge of reading this...  Dear Ana, i promised myself not to write you again, i understand that's what you want, but it's clear that i am never as strong as you. I know that your career is a constant success, so my renounce to remain in Velvet payed off. I still have you in my heart, and i dream that someday life gives us a new opportunity, away from all the pain of the past. It's possible that i'm a stupid for dreaming with something like this, but doing it keeps me alive. I love you, Alberto. The only thing that makes sense right now is that Alberto thinks Ana silence means she is still angry with him, and that he tried to forget her since she doesn't answer his letters but he can't. Alfi atresplayer has subtitles? What if Carlos wrote to Alberto pretending to be Ann telling Alberto that it's over I agree that Alberto is stilling thinking that Ana want nothing to do with him. Five years in scheme of things it is not really a long time, Ana built a good career in fashion, Alberto has a successful store in New York, Christina in the sanitarium and Enrique/Patricia carry on with their relationship for 5 years, plus Mateo and Clara split. But what I don't understand is Adel's story and the dress, it is not logical what her function in the storyline is except to deliver the news that Alberto still alive, how did she know Alberto didn't get on "that" plane. If she knows about the plane crash then Alberto should know they think he is dead. Does she not know Alberto is madly in love with Ana and Ana broke down in front of her, even after Christina explain why Ana is upset, why doesn't she go after Ana make sure she knew Alberto is not dead. This part of the story is really really WEAK. And Christina's reversion to the 5 year ago is give mental health profession a bad name, she changed back within days. I guess if she could kill a mother and her baby, she could certainly help Carlos to get Ana to marry him and she may have a chance with Alberto too. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 7:56:42 GMT -5
I agree that Alberto is stilling thinking that Ana want nothing to do with him. Five years in scheme of things it is not really a long time, Ana built a good career in fashion, Alberto has a successful store in New York, Christina in the sanitarium and Enrique/Patricia carry on with their relationship for 5 years, plus Mateo and Clara split. I was wondering how they were going to "revitalize" the formula of the show after the third season and without MAS and the 5 years jump, but kudos to the writers, producers and actors, because it's looking fantastic. Nope, it's not illogical... Cristina tells Adele that Alberto died in a fly to Havana, and Adele knows that he went first to Istanbul prior going to China and meet the best producers of fabric of the world (her words) because she works for him (and she read his diary about his travels once he left Madrid). Ana left and she was with Cristina who convinced her to leave everything in her hands, also Adele have to go back to New York the next day and she doesn't know a thing about Cristina la loca. Nope, it's not craziness... it's desire of revenge, she wants to hurt Alberto, and Ana marrying Carlos looks like the best way of doing that. She was wronged by Alberto, and that was unresolved, it makes sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 8:07:36 GMT -5
That's the big surprise of this episode, that Cristina is done with pursuing Alberto's love... god, how naive i was, of course she was not going to be manipulated by Carlos, that would be removing agency from the main wonderful female antagonist. Again kudos to the writers, because it looks like something pretty obvious now, but they 'hid' their intentions with the plot really well. Now MV's words make even more sense.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 8:20:09 GMT -5
The only amazing about Adele is how a french woman living in New York speaks almost perfect spanish spanish |
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Post by Christine on Oct 20, 2016 8:32:33 GMT -5
That's the big surprise of this episode, that Cristina is done with seeking Alberto's love... god, how naive i was, of course she was not going to be manipulated by Carlos, that would be removing agency from the main wonderful female antagonist. Again kudos to the writers, because it looks like something pretty obvious now, but they 'hid' their intentions with the plot really well. Now MV's words make even more sense. . I agree with you Alfi but it was not a surprise to me has I stated in one of my previous post that there is no cure for obsession she will continue to prey on Alberto until the writers gives her a new object to focus on its not love for her it's hurt this kind of thing happens to people who are mentally ill and clearly the writers did a good job of showing that she is mentally ill and she does play the part very well I must say all the actor are great. What I am dying to know is how they are going to explain matao. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 9:02:50 GMT -5
By the way, Carlos tells Cristina that was the first letter from Alberto to Ana in a year+.
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Post by Christine on Oct 20, 2016 12:12:58 GMT -5
By the way, Carlos tells Cristina that was the first letter from Alberto to Ana in a year+. wow Alfi so he has stopped writing her thinking that he could forget her but he never could. |
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Post by Christine on Oct 20, 2016 12:25:11 GMT -5
By the way, Carlos tells Cristina that was the first letter from Alberto to Ana in a year+. Clara swears that she is over matao yet all the dressing up makeup and fancy hair styles is all for matao. I am wondering if she slept with Marco I am not too sure. I still don't get why she is still living in the store and not at mataos house isn't that husband that has to leave when there is a separation or it is different in Spain, in the states the husband is the one that has to leave especially if he is in the wrong. What do you think? |
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