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Post by Texas on Oct 19, 2016 18:29:44 GMT -5
Do you think she will agree to marry Carlos then change her mind at the last minute like with Alberto? She doesn't tell him she loves him when they are on the phone. so how can she marry him?? Did I miss how did Christina find out that Carlos had the letters?
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Post by Christine on Oct 19, 2016 18:31:47 GMT -5
Well i suppose it's not a spoiler since it's this episode... so read under your own responsibility if you don't want to wait for the subtitles: Cristina wants Carlos to marry Ana first, then she will think about her next step, she is getting her revenge for what Alberto did to her. so this is why matao is going to get Alberto to stop Ann from marrying carlos hence the short hair wedding [ Alfi what did the letter say we cannot wait for subtitles
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 18:41:29 GMT -5
The episode is already available in Atresplayer, do not read if you want to wait to the subtitles... though i don't know what i'm saying this, you and me know that you are not going to resist the urge of reading this... Dear Ana, i promised myself not to write you again, i understand that's what you want, but it's clear that i am never as strong as you. I know that your career is a constant success, so my renounce to remain in Velvet payed off. I still have you in my heart, and i dream that someday life gives us a new opportunity, away from all the pain of the past. It's possible that i'm a stupid for dreaming with something like this, but doing it keeps me alive. I love you, Alberto. The only thing that makes sense right now is that Alberto thinks Ana silence means she is still angry with him, and that he tried to forget her since she doesn't answer his letters but he can't.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 18:44:17 GMT -5
I like that twist Alfi I know your girl is how do you say crazy in Spanish 😱 Even with great hair a leopard can never change its spots 😜 una loca! great hair came back with mad Cristina 
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Post by Christine on Oct 19, 2016 18:55:39 GMT -5
The episode is already available in Atresplayer, do not read if you want to wait to the subtitles... though i don't know what i'm saying this, you and me know that you are not going to resist the urge of reading this... Dear Ana, i promised myself not to write you again, i understand that's what you want, but it's clear that i am never as strong as you. I know that your career is a constant success, so my renounce to remain in Velvet payed off. I still have you in my heart, and i dream that someday life gives us a new opportunity, away from all the pain of the past. It's possible that i'm a stupid for dreaming with something like this, but doing it keeps me alive. I love you, Alberto. The only thing that makes sense right now is that Alberto thinks Ana silence means she is still angry with him, and that he tried to forget her since she doesn't answer his letters but he can't. Alfi atresplayer has subtitles? What if Carlos wrote to Alberto pretending to be Ann telling Alberto that it's over
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Post by Lara on Oct 19, 2016 18:56:39 GMT -5
Ugh, I can't take much more of this show, it's gotten so dark from the first 2 seasons. It played out exactly like I thought, Cristina decided right then and there to keep it from Ana, she didn't even really need prodding from Carlos. She was never going to tell. She also had to to shut down Adele, who doesn't seem like the brightest bulb, from speaking to Ana. Why on earth is Adele not going to tell Alberto they all think he's dead and she told Cristina?   !!!! It makes no sense!!!!!! The proposal thing is what I expected from Carlos, because once Ana is legally married, he's never letting her out of it. As for Cristina, I hope they tell us more about her motivations for wanting a marriage, does she want to torment Alberto that the love of his life is married to someone else and Ana gets stuck in a loveless marriage after she knows Alberto is back. Ana could separate from Carlos but getting out of the marriage is another story. Another reason, which seems likely with nutcase Cristina, is that she thinks she can get Alberto back. Cristina's obsession with Alberto is a symptom of a bigger issue, her narcissistic personality disorder, which I think the writer's were going for. Carlos is just pathetic, trapping a woman who doesn't love him into marriage. Both he and Cristina are evil and twisted. There is NO redemption for her, even if at the last minute she stops a C/A wedding, which I don't think will happen. She and Carlos both belong and at the bottom of the ocean. I'm hoping Ana will finally wise up, they are making her look so stupid. Ana needs to say no or drag out the decision. Alberto needs to come back ASAP. PS. Another thing I thought way back was that Carlos wrote Alberto under the guise of Ana and that's why he didn't come back to Madrid. It seems like a real possibility now. I'm a little surprised how predicable the show is so far 😝 Though the lack of phone calls is still a mystery.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 19:05:55 GMT -5
In spanish for deaf people i think.
Nope, in the letter the "I understand that's what you want" implies Ana didn't answer him back nor he went back to Madrid. After reading some letters of young Alberto, i think that Alberto biggest fear is Ana not loving him, so he is fooling himself not confronting Ana about that. He doesn't want to find out that Ana silence means she doesn't love him anymore, so he is still in the dark about the whole situation.
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Post by debmac on Oct 19, 2016 19:08:34 GMT -5
The episode is already available in Atresplayer, do not read if you want to wait to the subtitles... though i don't know what i'm saying this, you and me know that you are not going to resist the urge of reading this... Dear Ana, i promised myself not to write you again, i understand that's what you want, but it's clear that i am never as strong as you. I know that your career is a constant success, so my renounce to remain in Velvet payed off. I still have you in my heart, and i dream that someday life gives us a new opportunity, away from all the pain of the past. It's possible that i'm a stupid for dreaming with something like this, but doing it keeps me alive. I love you, Alberto. The only thing that makes sense right now is that Alberto thinks Ana silence means she is still angry with him, and that he tried to forget her since she doesn't answer his letters but he can't. Thank you, Alfi. You are right I could not resist reading. I watched it as it was airing live but could not understand a darn thing. I could swear though when Cristina read the letter I heard Carlos name but I Guess I was wrong. Alberto loves Ana so much. I can't wait for Alberto's return.
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Post by Christine on Oct 19, 2016 19:09:56 GMT -5
The episode is already available in Atresplayer, do not read if you want to wait to the subtitles... though i don't know what i'm saying this, you and me know that you are not going to resist the urge of reading this... Dear Ana, i promised myself not to write you again, i understand that's what you want, but it's clear that i am never as strong as you. I know that your career is a constant success, so my renounce to remain in Velvet payed off. I still have you in my heart, and i dream that someday life gives us a new opportunity, away from all the pain of the past. It's possible that i'm a stupid for dreaming with something like this, but doing it keeps me alive. I love you, Alberto. The only thing that makes sense right now is that Alberto thinks Ana silence means she is still angry with him, and that he tried to forget her since she doesn't answer his letters but he can't. [ Alfi I watch every episode live from Spain I do understand what is going on but sometimes I cannot wait for subtitles like in this episode I will still watch again when subtitles are up and again in 2017 when Netflex gets it😍
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Post by debmac on Oct 19, 2016 19:11:31 GMT -5
The episode is already available in Atresplayer, do not read if you want to wait to the subtitles... though i don't know what i'm saying this, you and me know that you are not going to resist the urge of reading this... Dear Ana, i promised myself not to write you again, i understand that's what you want, but it's clear that i am never as strong as you. I know that your career is a constant success, so my renounce to remain in Velvet payed off. I still have you in my heart, and i dream that someday life gives us a new opportunity, away from all the pain of the past. It's possible that i'm a stupid for dreaming with something like this, but doing it keeps me alive. I love you, Alberto. The only thing that makes sense right now is that Alberto thinks Ana silence means she is still angry with him, and that he tried to forget her since she doesn't answer his letters but he can't. Alfi atresplayer has subtitles? What if Carlos wrote to Alberto pretending to be Ann telling Alberto that it's over That was my thought also, Christine. I just want to choke Carlos😡😡😡😡😤😤😤😤
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Post by Christine on Oct 19, 2016 19:24:15 GMT -5
In spanish for deaf people i think. Nope, in the letter the "I understand that's what you want" implies Ana didn't answer him back nor he went back to Madrid. After reading some letters of young Alberto, i think that Alberto biggest fear is Ana not loving him, so he is fooling himself not confronting Ana about that. He doesn't want to find out that Ana silence means she doesn't love him anymore, so he is still in the dark about the whole situation. I think that is what it implies that he haven't been hearing from her and she's is still mad at him I didn't understand what you were talking about in your first sentence.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 19:32:03 GMT -5
Alfi atresplayer has subtitles?
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Post by Christine on Oct 19, 2016 19:34:28 GMT -5
Ugh, I can't take much more of this show, it's gotten so dark from the first 2 seasons. It played out exactly like I thought, Cristina decided right then and there to keep it from Ana, she didn't even really need prodding from Carlos. She was never going to tell. She also had to to shut down Adele, who doesn't seem like the brightest bulb, from speaking to Ana. Why on earth is Adele not going to tell Alberto they all think he's dead and she told Cristina?   !!!! It makes no sense!!!!!! The proposal thing is what I expected from Carlos, because once Ana is legally married, he's never letting her out of it. As for Cristina, I hope they tell us more about her motivations for wanting a marriage, does she want to torment Alberto that the love of his life is married to someone else and Ana gets stuck in a loveless marriage after she knows Alberto is back. Ana could separate from Carlos but getting out of the marriage is another story. Another reason, which seems likely with nutcase Cristina, is that she thinks she can get Alberto back. Cristina's obsession with Alberto is a symptom of a bigger issue, her narcissistic personality disorder, which I think the writer's were going for. Carlos is just pathetic, trapping a woman who doesn't love him into marriage. Both he and Cristina are evil and twisted. There is NO redemption for her, even if at the last minute she stops a C/A wedding, which I don't think will happen. She and Carlos both belong and at the bottom of the ocean. I'm hoping Ana will finally wise up, they are making her look so stupid. Ana needs to say no or drag out the decision. Alberto needs to come back ASAP. PS. Another thing I thought way back was that Carlos wrote Alberto under the guise of Ana and that's why he didn't come back to Madrid. It seems like a real possibility now. I'm a little surprised how predicable the show is so far 😝 Though the lack of phone calls is still a mystery. we know now why he didn't call Ann he think she is still mad at him that is why she is not writing him back. The mystery is mateo why he never got in touch with Mateo or even Raul
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Post by Christine on Oct 19, 2016 19:43:10 GMT -5
Matao should beat the crap out of Alberto when he sees him for what he did to him not one letter not one phone call even if Alberto believes matao is with Ann that is even more reason to get in touch with matao he doesn't have to speak to Ann if he doesn't want to.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 19:45:17 GMT -5
The only i can guess right now is that Alberto thinks Ana doesn't love him, but he is not totally sure... and because he still has a little hope that Ana will forgive him he doesn't want to lose that hope, which keeps him going, and that's why he didn't contact Mateo or Raul, he is too coward to find out what he fears most.
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