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Post by carlucc on Oct 10, 2016 14:34:06 GMT -5
Hey everyone, Part 2 is finally available!! I feel like doing a victory lap, tbh. haha Enjoy! Thank you, thank you!
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Post by amh08 on Oct 10, 2016 15:17:56 GMT -5
Nah, I didn't think she forged the letter. They probably wanted closure. I always thought they handled the reveal of Gerardo buying Alberto poorly. No confrontation between Gerardo and Cristina or him and Alberto always seemed odd to me since he was the catalyst for the entire thing. Cristina should have been livid with him and Gerardo should have been livid with Alberto for dumping her so quickly. My theory to excuse some of the sloppiness was that Cristina wasn't mad at father because she would take Alberto any way she could get him. I personally still can't believe Gerardo had 10 million in cash to give Alberto without even getting a share in the company originally. Now they only have Velvet as an asset and Enrique is working there while owning only 20%. It's so dumb and doesn't make any sense to me. They definitely dropped the ball with that entire situation. Wasn’t Gloria also conspiring with Gerardo and causing all the problems for Velvet? I’m still shocked that Emilio didn’t reveal that the person blackmailing Alberto was his stepmother. At a minimum Gerardo should have had an argument with Alberto about ending the marriage. He was so furious to find that letter from Ana and an annulment would have tarnished their families reputation. Not to mention his money would have been wasted. I looked to see how much $10M pesetas would be and it would only be about $160,000 which was a significant sum in 1959. And you’re right...what about their other businesses? Couldn’t Enrique go back to managing those. Christina should have confronted her father about buying her a husband. Maybe she just didn’t care because she got what she wanted but still I would have been furious that I was tricked by both my father and my fiancé. I initially felt a little sorry for her but she was such an annoying character always meddling in Alberto’s business and showing up when she wasn’t wanted and turned so crazy that I didn’t have any sympathy for her.
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Post by Camille on Oct 10, 2016 16:17:51 GMT -5
Hey everyone, Part 2 is finally available!! I feel like doing a victory lap, tbh. haha Enjoy! YES!👏👏👏🙌 Thank you VV!!!
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Post by Christine on Oct 10, 2016 17:50:55 GMT -5
Hey everyone, Part 2 is finally available!! I feel like doing a victory lap, tbh. haha Enjoy! thanks 🙏🏿 😍Get some rest now please 💤
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Post by Lara on Oct 10, 2016 18:16:41 GMT -5
Nah, I didn't think she forged the letter. They probably wanted closure. I always thought they handled the reveal of Gerardo buying Alberto poorly. No confrontation between Gerardo and Cristina or him and Alberto always seemed odd to me since he was the catalyst for the entire thing. Cristina should have been livid with him and Gerardo should have been livid with Alberto for dumping her so quickly. My theory to excuse some of the sloppiness was that Cristina wasn't mad at father because she would take Alberto any way she could get him. I personally still can't believe Gerardo had 10 million in cash to give Alberto without even getting a share in the company originally. Now they only have Velvet as an asset and Enrique is working there while owning only 20%. It's so dumb and doesn't make any sense to me. They definitely dropped the ball with that entire situation. Wasn’t Gloria also conspiring with Gerardo and causing all the problems for Velvet? I’m still shocked that Emilio didn’t reveal that the person blackmailing Alberto was his stepmother. At a minimum Gerardo should have had an argument with Alberto about ending the marriage. He was so furious to find that letter from Ana and an annulment would have tarnished their families reputation. Not to mention his money would have been wasted. I looked to see how much $10M pesetas would be and it would only be about $160,000 which was a significant sum in 1959. And you’re right...what about their other businesses? Couldn’t Enrique go back to managing those. Christina should have confronted her father about buying her a husband. Maybe she just didn’t care because she got what she wanted but still I would have been furious that I was tricked by both my father and my fiancé. I initially felt a little sorry for her but she was such an annoying character always meddling in Alberto’s business and showing up when she wasn’t wanted and turned so crazy that I didn’t have any sympathy for her. I think Gloria was trying to hook up with Gerardo. I remember she was conspiring with Pilar. They also dropped the whole blackmail thing quickly. Gloria never paid that guy, but he just vanished. I felt the Esteban reveal was also very whatever when it finally came out. They have great build ups, but the fall out is always lacking. Yes, Gerardo should have had it out with Alberto for sure! Especially have involved he was in the first season. I do think the Oteguis benefitted the most from the deal, certainly more than Alberto, they got a portion of the company which seems to be their sole source of income. Ooh, thanks for looking the figures that up. It just seems so incredibly ridiculous that gruesome twosome Oteguis glob onto Velvet and Gerardo is supposed to have this empire he was running, which is why he installed Enrique at Velvet. So where is that? What was the source of their money then? Enrique is always trying to get power, so why not sell his shares and/or his estate and open his own thing like Alberto did? I feel like the show is so intent on keeping the same characters/actors that they force pieces into a puzzle where they no longer fit. Plot over character development, much like what they are doing to Clara and why Enrique, Cristina and Carlos are still on the show well past their expiration dates. The weird part about Cristina's lack of confrontation is that Gerardo was on the first couple of episodes, yet they had a trivial conversation about Cristina taking over for Enrique. The actor was there, give us a useful scene. She should have been fuming and, if not, he's the first person she would have run to to help get Alberto back! As many posters know already, I hate Cristina with passion lol Always thought she was a spoiled, phony, narcissist. She was so pushy from the very first ep and wouldn't stop pursuing Alberto and getting in his face before and after the marriage. When the marriage ended she blamed Ana, instead of looking at the root of the problem that Alberto never loved her. I do wish they would have taken her in another direction. If I heard correctly she was talking about class when speaking to her daughter about staying away from Alberto Jr. She should talk, the nerve! I'm sure Ana is much more respected than she is at this point.
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Post by amh08 on Oct 10, 2016 19:29:29 GMT -5
I can relate I'm not a fan of Christina either. this new Christina is so calculated. She is careful about everything she says but I'm not buying it. She's had a crazy look a few times too. Ana has every right to still be terrified of her. Even the way she explained to her daughter why she can't be friends with Alberto shows she is the same snotty spoiled person she always was.
I loved how Alberto Jr asked to go to the roof and see the stars because it was their tradition. I love how Ana has incorporated Alberto into their lives even though he is gone. Totally cried watching that scene.
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Post by Admin on Oct 10, 2016 19:42:38 GMT -5
Yeah I wouldn't trust Cristina at all either at this point. So everyone has good reason to be weary of her until she proves herself which I think she may really try at first, but then once she finds out about Alberto, it's just going to go out the window.
And yeah I loved that rooftop scene too with Alberto Jr. That's totally my next GIF set btw. haha
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Post by Staceylehua on Oct 10, 2016 19:52:23 GMT -5
Did anybody notice that the blue dress that Ana is wearing in the scenes from episode 2, is "the blue dress" that she is kissing Alberto with?? So maybe we get to see him soon??? Cause it's killing me not seeing him!!
Thank you again VV for the subtitles!!! We would go crazy till July when it airs on nextflix!!
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Post by carlucc on Oct 10, 2016 20:20:28 GMT -5
I love little Alberto. He has some of his father's characteristics. eg. When Ana puts him in his bed he turns to lie on his stomach cradling his pillow like his father. Also when he was pleading with his mother he looked at her with those puppy dog eyes the same way Alberto would look at Ana. Lol or is it because I miss Alberto so much that I try to look for him in his son?
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Post by Guess on Oct 10, 2016 20:36:58 GMT -5
Thanks for part 2!
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Post by Guess on Oct 10, 2016 20:43:13 GMT -5
True about the clacking of the heels the whole time! For some reason, part 2 had so much heel clacking.
Mateo and Ana's partnership is so great. It gives you that assurance despite the absence of Alberto.
I wonder too what happened with Marco and Ana. The strain in not merely of a boss not agreeing with her idea. It's like there is more to it than that. Maybe Ana just doesn't like how he runs the business.
The kids are too cute but I don't like the fact that the girl's name is Cristina. I guess if they end up together that would be the consolation for Cristina who has been a victim of circumstance the whole time.
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Post by northboundtrain on Oct 10, 2016 21:15:30 GMT -5
Thank you so much, VV! Did anybody notice that the blue dress that Ana is wearing in the scenes from episode 2, is "the blue dress" that she is kissing Alberto with?? So maybe we get to see him soon??? Cause it's killing me not seeing him!! Unfortunately, I don't think it's the same dress...it's a similar color as the dress from the photo shoots, but it's not the same design. Lol...I can't stand Enrique. I can tolerate Patricia, but Enrique no way. However, I actually think they are ideal for each other...lol I can't stand him either! I just think he drags her down. Also, I'm dying to know what exactly happened with Clara/Mateo. Clara is still clearly upset by it and blames it on something Mateo did. And in that dinner scene, which I know is in part 2 so many of you may not have understood exactly what was said, there's a lot of tension between Mateo/Marco, more so than what we had seen at the end of s3. I wonder if it has to do with Clara now. I definitely got some jealous vibes from Marco. It's going to be very interesting to watch when Mateo returns to Velvet. I did pick up on the tension between the two of them but it's good to have the subtitles to get some clarity. I think you're right that the tension is mostly because of Clara. And I, too, am dying to know what happened between Clara and Mateo. Enrique is disgusting, I can't stand him. I don't know what Enrique and Patricia is to each other. Enrique clearly was not just seeing Patricia for her shares of Velvet, she no longer has shares and he's still sleeping with her. It could just be sex or they genuinely care for each other. I would rather see Patricia with Jonas. They appeared to have a connection at one time. I get the feeling that it's sex...just the same animal attraction and forbidden fruit sort of appeal they've held for each other since S1. She's not attracted to Valentin, and Enrique's without Barbara, so they're using each other to fulfill their needs. The show could try to make it out to be more, because we're still so early in the season, but that's my take at the moment. Possibly when Jonas becomes a successful tailor it may turn Patricia's head again. I'd love this. At least there's the small hope that they may interact, even just briefly, since they're both connected to Raul's menswear line. Honestly, at this point, I don't even need a real continuation of their story...I'd be happy with just a hint that the attraction is still there. Enrique is a selfish barking dog, he tries to be very "tough" and "manly", but he still has a very very very little piece of something that if you try to look a bit more close sometimes looks like a very sick small piece of a human heart, like when he took her sister in his arms and put her on the bed, or when in his father's will after behaving like a complete dork, he still took the letter and read it for Cristina when she couldn't. Enrique and Patricia relationship is just sex, nothing complicated, not involving love, but now, with Patricia pregnant by Enrique, things are going to complicate, i still don't know where this relationship is going to go or end. The moment he cared for Cristina after she tried to kill herself was the only time I've felt something positive for the character. But during the will reading, I took it as less him being kind to Cristina and more that he just wanted to hurry and find out what the letter said. Thank you. I was wondering what she said. I wonder too what happened with Marco and Ana. The strain in not merely of a boss not agreeing with her idea. It's like there is more to it than that. Maybe Ana just doesn't like how he runs the business. Yeah, I'd really like a little bit more background there. That bothers me, too -- it's too cute by half...like the writers were just totally in love with the idea of the kids introducing themselves as "Alberto Marquez" and "Cristina Otegui." Cristina should have named her daughter after her mother. I did like that touch of little Cristina recognizing that Enrique is Lourditas' father -- a hint from the writers that Cristina and Barbara are still close.
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Post by joyjoy on Oct 10, 2016 21:19:27 GMT -5
I immediately noticed the blue dress in the preview of the second episode as the same one she has on in the rain and pictures of them together being very close. Alberto does look sad and confused in those photos. I love how Mateo and Ana are such good friends. I am not crazy about Clara because she is such a flimsy flirt that tries to be sexy and likes to keep men dangling. I still do not trust Christina. She is a snob. As for Patricia, she is a nymphomaniac! She needs counseling. Thanks VV for closed captioning in English. I am no longer suffering from anxiety now that I am getting to watch Velvet. Cannot wait for Alberto to reappear! Maybe since this is the last season, they will try to find good endings for everyone like they did on Downton Abbey!! Thanks again for hard work in translations❣❣❣
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Post by amh08 on Oct 10, 2016 21:51:15 GMT -5
Naming your child after yourself just seems narcissistic. Cristina really couldn't come up with any other name....not even to honor her late mother!?
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Post by Lara on Oct 10, 2016 21:52:18 GMT -5
Yeah, amh08, Cristina was totally trying to hold back, but her old self came out a little with Raul and at times with Enrique. She will be more covert this time in her revenge against Ana. I don't know why it surprised me when she mentioned different worlds, yeah Ana is from the sane one. Seriously, it does show that she is still the same Cristina who still views herself above the little people. You can see the crazy bubbling underneath the surface in what she says and the looks she gives. Run, Ana.
Not the same blue dress. The reunion dress is v neck with short sleeves, belted at the waist and has black stripes going down. It totally coordinates with Alberto's suit.😍 The one on the next ep is scoop neck and sleeveless.
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