Velvet Season 4 PROMO / TRAILER Discussion!

I wouldn't say completely, more like 95% her fault. His mistake was going through with the wedding out of obligation, confusion, spite and of course money. However, in the early episodes he really didn't want to get engaged much less marry Cristina, but Ana pushed and pushed. I felt he could have taken Gerardo's money and still bailed out of the marriage. Raul's collection also started to sell after the publicity from Princess Grace's visit, so I'll never be certain why he married Cristina, except for the above reasons, most of which are traced back to Ana. He's not the most emotionally mature person, we've seen he has a history of impulsivity when he is rejected and hurt. Ana didn't really give him a chance to look for other options, he told her about the deal and that night she left. Mateo was also encouraging him to do it. He had just lost his father and was thrown into running a bankrupt business, I don't think he was thinking too clearly. Yeah, in some scenes he seemed to be enjoying being with Cristina, but that was set up for Ana's insecurity to creep through, which led to him choosing, which led to her rejection of him, which led to him deciding to marry Cristina. I don't think his love for Ana ever waivered, but he did try with Cristina.

The Sara thing I completely disagree. It's like Ana not telling Raul about her and Alberto. Certain things are better left unsaid sometimes. It was basically a one time thing anyway. He wasn't with Ana at the time, so she had no right to feel bad about the cheating aspect. Sara was also in the past, many other things would have bothered me more than that like Cristina's harassment and pregnancy. Alberto didn't make Ana look like a fool at the party, that was Cristina. I thought it was inappropriate for them to go anywhere together before he was divorced. I don't even understand why he didn't announce a separation. They opened themselves up to the awkwardness.

That has been the pattern, Alberto leaves, while Ana stays. Ana uses Velvet as a crutch, which is equally bad. When Alberto left the first time, she could have left too during those years. He was shocked she was still there. When he got engaged she was supposed to go to Barcelona, but she backed out. Then when they're finally together and he gave her a great design opportunity, she says she didn't lead a complete left. At that point, everything was falling into place, especially with Cristina's lies exposed. Ana had chances to leave, but she stayed and is still there as of S4. Was it Alberto's fault that she didn't go off and live her life? I think that's on her. In the end, HE made her dream come true otherwise she still would be a seamstress with the Phillipe Ray business on the side. I don't think Alberto left to find himself, that's a byproduct of it, it was the rejection and that impulsivity. I think he would have been more than happy to have married Ana and ran Velvet at that stage in his life, well the latter could be debatable at times.

Ana urged Alberto to marry Cristina, got jealous, had him decide who he wanted, he chose her, only to be dumped at the altar without explanation. She then wrote a letter that Gerardo found which forced him to give up majority ownership of Velvet (which left them all stuck with the Orteguis for life it seems 😡). He gives Ana a designing opportunity. He finally dumps Cristina for her and then she dumps him for a stupid reason. He sells his company to make sure she gets a successful career out of the deal and leaves for good. Poor Patricia, she got he short end of the stick for Ana too! Ana seemed to be the only one that ended up benefitting from Alberto actually saving the store to begin with. What did Alberto get? Stuck with a crazy, overbearing wife he didn't love and then couldn't get rid of, her family owning the store and making his life miserable, him blackmailing his sister and then selling their shares and Ana's allowance of equally crazy Carlos to re-enter her life, thus stealing his letters and robbing him of the family he always wanted.

Ana does not need Carlos to confirm if Alberto is dead or not, she has Sera and she is the owner of the Airline who else knows more than Sera. Both Ana and Alberto made mistakes in the relationship but what drove us nuts is we want more of the good and happy time in their relationship since they went through so much hardships but it seems S4 may only gives us the abbreviated version of getting back together and that's disappointing.

I think many of them were due to the snowball effect. He slept with Cristina after Ana rejected him which led to what I feel was an obligation to her. He also wanted to spite Ana when she left him at the altar. Yes, Mateo was the main cheerleader for the marriage. In S2, we see how wrong he was. If there was no Ana, Alberto still wouldn't have given Cristina the time of day if we're not for the money. That relationship was a train wreck and would not have worked under any circumstances. Yeah, Alberto kept pushing to normalize the relationship with Ana and make it public, but it was the wrong move. I agree that it would have been better to tell Ana about Sara, but I don't feel it was a make or break thing, I think the writers should have come up with a better reason. I would agree with that also about leaving Spain, it's not totally on her, and while I still say he didn't owe her a goodbye, he was childish not to. However, from his perspective he had cleared all the obstacles, she was even surprised he still got the annulment after the broke up, and gave her a great opportunity on top of it all and still rejected him. As a viewer it didn't make sense either, Cristina wasn't having his baby, the marriage was over, Alberto was in pain and she missed him. So what exactly was the issue? Again, it was just poor reasoning from a writing perspective. I also felt bad for her when he left her on her won to deal with Cristina. He might have thought she would be gone from Velvet, but we know how they went. He is kind of a moody, aloof character and a bastard at times, I think that's why I love him lol, but the love of Ana keeps him human, as opposed to someone like Marco. Who just is very no nonsense. I absolutely blame Ana for Carlos! I understand why she would call him, but from past history, she should have cut him off there. If he hadn't interfered, Alberto would have 100% come back.

Antena3 advertising velvet as muy pronto, so no date yet, how frustrating!

Yeah, that was what I was thinking, except Patricia threw some cold water on that theory.

I was thinking where Cristina will be during the wedding. Since the show is done, will she have left Madrid or just finally accept it. Its got to be one or both.
One of the problems for Patricia is that she doesn't really have a confidante. Clara and the workroom crew have each other, Alberto and Mateo, Jonas and Pedro, Emilio and Blanca and Cristina and Barbara. Patricia is sort of like a lone wolf as far as friendships, which is probably why we don't have a lot to go on about her inner workings. They just rolled everything into one with her relationship with Enrique. Her character was just never fully developed like a lot of the others.
I agree they are both people of honor, most of the time. Yeah, I think that was the final straw that made Alberto honor the agreement. Him sleeping with Ana wasn't really brought up or an issue, but it was mentioned a few times with Cristina. I remember he looked somewhat mortified/startled the morning after and told her they did nothing wrong.
Definitely and it would have made it more of her slowly climbing the ladder then getting to the top overnight with Alberto pulling the strings.
I laughed too. I always wondered how Mateo and Rita got there. I liked when they got back Ana told Rita she talked too much and Rita was like that's the thanks I get lol I love early Rita and Ana, I wish they had gone out in the Paris ep, those would have been some fun scenes. I enjoyed the scenes out of Velvet.
I never felt like Alberto ever thought he had feelings for Cristina. Any confusion came from Mateo and Ana telling him he might. He always seemed very sure of his feelings for both women. I think the two were different because Ana was sort of put on the spot and they had that whole Cristina mess going on. Whereas, M/C had months preparing for the wedding. They did share doubts though, but for very different reasons.

I'm really hoping it won't be at the end. Lol I want them gone so badly, that if that and a few other things don't happen, it will forever taint the show for me. It's bad enough we didn't get to see much of A/A relationship, speaking of which, can they have a decent sex scene without being fully clothed before the show ends! 💑 🙈 PE must have no nudity clause because Alberto/MAS scenes with Sara and even Cristina were way racier than the ones with Ana. Oops, anyway, I don't see Cristina with Marco, at most maybe they'll hint at it at the very end. Marco is the antithesis of Alberto, so I can see him being mostly casual, even with Clara. He's the type that will get married in his 50s to a 25 year old. Lol If they are still keeping characters consistent then he will be smart enough to stay far, far, far away from Cristina too. The more I think of the store thing, the more I think the Marquez's will not get it back. The comment by the writer or whoever said jokingly (?) they'll continue Velvet if Spainards clamor for it, then PE said that A/A story is definitely over, kind of tells me they are going to be absolutely done with Velvet (hopefully their kid will be too and they won't continue it with the next generation). Alberto has a new, successful business, so it makes complete sense to leave Velvet behind. If they do ever revisit the show's characters, I would rather watch Silk with A/A than Velvet with whoever will be left.

I haven't watched GH, but I am wondering how they end their shows.

I can believe all of this contributed to him deciding to marry. He is impulsive as we know.

Yeah, M/C really shouldn't have gone through with it in retrospect.

I understood Mateo proposed under difficult circumstances, but he and Clara dated a while at that point. They also had 5-6 months of the engagement to think it all through. They seemed like they wanted to get married, just not with all the fanfare. It didn't make sense to me that they stopped the wedding. I just kept thinking what's the big deal, at that point they just had to go through the motions for another 5-10 minutes. I guess that was the big clue that they shouldn't have gotten married. I think they will end up together in the end, but if this was real life, I don't see them happily ever after the second time around either. They never appeared the marrying kind like R/P and A/A did, they seemed better suited to living together and seeing where the wind blows.

I always took it as the Sara and cristina's scenes were just sex. Being with Ana meant something. Now thinking about it I guess I could be wrong. Idk.