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Post by northboundtrain on Sept 9, 2016 7:04:55 GMT -5
Velvet's Twitter page is posting updates from the panel that took place with the Velvet actors, including some mild spoilers:
* One of the producers, Teresa Valdes, says that Alberto going to New York is as act of love for Ana (?) -- VV or alfi may need to check the translation on that.
* Another producer says that Velvet ends in a way that is typical for romantic comedies.
* CF (Rita) says that this season is hell for Rita (again, VV or alfi may need to check translation).
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Post by northboundtrain on Sept 9, 2016 14:42:23 GMT -5
MAGAZINE SPOILERS(I'm slowly running stuff through Google Translate...here's the gist of the new stuff...) ANA/ALBERTO* One article asks if Ana and Carlos will get married. Article says it's difficult to know/say if Ana still loves Alberto or if she loves Carlos, but that it is clear Carlos occupies a hole in her heart. * Alberto did not die (duh, LOL) and is now working on new projects that have made him a new man. There's a curious little article that says that officially someone (?) denies that Alberto could be alive and demands respect for "his memory." Not sure about the translation there...not sure if they mean Mateo or Ana or someone else. * The article on Adele is nothing new -- she works for Silk, knows Alberto's alive, comes to Velvet supposedly to get Ana's work exported to the U.S., but really she's there because of Alberto. * Blurb about the new Velvet book about Alberto's relationship with Adele and his life in New York. Definitely sounds like he and Adele are romantically involved. * Alberto, Jr....we already know all this...says he has a great relationship with both Emilio and Carlos, Ana's boyfriend. Says he starts a friendship with Cristina's daughter. READY-TO-WEAR STORYLINE* Ana and Marco are at odds over her idea to bring ready-to-wear to Velvet because he thinks it will hurt the Velvet brand. * The Italians have provided Velvet with financial stability, but the bickering between management and the departments continues. * Petra gives Aurora's old store to Ana to use as a workshop -- Petra will be Ana's ally against Marco. * Enrique allies with Marco against Ana -- apparently, Marco and Enrique team up to boycott Ana's new line. * Clara's relationship with Marco may affect her friendship with Ana, who is at odds with Marco over her ready-to-wear plans. THE FREAKING OTEGUIS* Cristina now owns 50% of Velvet thanks to the death of her father. * Enrique and Patricia's affair continues, only now their relationship is being investigated by the police. (This is undoubtedly about the hunting incident with Valentin.) * Cristina's daughter is named after her...she's a lovely and sweet girl and her friendship with Alberto, Jr. will play into her mother's revenge against Ana. MATEO/CLARA* Clara is called Mateo's "former partner" and Clara is now in a relationship with Marco. * Julian (new character) is Mateo's young assistant at the magazine...Mateo depends on him a great deal. BLANCA/EMILIO/PETRA* There will indeed be a Petra/Emilio/Blanca triangle, as Petra will tell Emilio that she notices the way Blanca looks at him. * Petra is Emilio's first love, but they didn't work out because she wanted to travel the world. She married an actor and they had an acting company/theater, but now she is a widow and she has returned to Madrid. Petra is determined to make things work with Emilio since she has a second chance with him, but her arrival complicates the relationship between Emilio and Blanca. * Alfonso (new character) involved in the fashion industry and a childhood friend of Blanca's, a man she may make contact with again. MEN'S WEAR STORYLINE* Every week, Raul will "publish" an article at www.vanitatis.elconfidencial.com that provides secrets about the store. * Jonas will be Raul's new pupil, as he has obtained an offer from a place in Paris. * Humberto is a big movie star with a huge ego that causes problems for Patricia, Enrique, and especially Raul...the two men will be like two cocks in the same hen house. * Ricardo (new character) is Humberto's agent, more like his guardian angel, determined to protect him at all costs. * Antonia (new character) is Jonas' sister...we already know all about this from the previous article on the actress. RITA/PEDRO* Rita and Pedro's marriage is stronger than ever, unlike Clara/Mateo's relationship, and Rita is expecting her third child when disaster strikes. * Doctor Isasa (new character) -- doesn't say who he's treating, but it must be Rita given the cancer storyline. Article says that his patient doesn't always take his advice. OTHER* Not a spoiler, but Antena 3 is going to send Velvet out in style with tons of unreleased bonus material for the website.
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Post by Lara on Sept 9, 2016 15:09:08 GMT -5
Thanks Northbound!
- Ok, not really worried about Carlos replacing Alberto in Ana's heart. Lol - The person who is probably saying Alberto is dead and demanding respect is Cristina since she does not want that revealed. - Adele and Alberto won't go anywhere, though it does seem like she accidentally reveals the information. If they are involved it only would annoy me because he has tons of lovers and they stick Ana with Carlos
- sounds like Ana is going back to her roots at Dona Auroras - Pehaps Clara's relationship with Marco is more serious than once thought, but I can see her seeing him for who he is and kicking him to the curb at the end - they might end up legally taking Ana's line, this goes back to the PE tongue and cheek post on the collection pic about them knowing it's her line -the % of ownership of Velvet keeps changing. First it was 50% Orteguis, then 40%, now 50% again, which doesn't make sense because the Cafeiros clearly had majority and that's why Alberto blackmailed Patricia. So wondering if that's a typo -Cristina still despicable as ever using her kid, and people think the kid friendship is cute. Nope. I'm hoping that is the main reason of the friendship and not a hint at a future pairing ala A/A
Don't know what to think about Petra/Emilio/Blanca until we see Petra
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Post by primusoars on Sept 9, 2016 16:44:14 GMT -5
Thanks Northbound! - Ok, not really worried about Carlos replacing Alberto in Ana's heart. Lol - The person who is probably saying Alberto is dead and demanding respect is Cristina since she does not want that revealed. - Adele and Alberto won't go anywhere, though it does seem like she accidentally reveals the information. If they are involved it only would annoy me because he has tons of lovers and they stick Ana with Carlos - sounds like Ana is going back to her roots at Dona Auroras - Pehaps Clara's relationship with Marco is more serious than once thought, but I can see her seeing him for who he is and kicking him to the curb at the end - they might end up legally taking Ana's line, this goes back to the PE tongue and cheek post on the collection pic about them knowing it's her line -the % of ownership of Velvet keeps changing. First it was 50% Orteguis, then 40%, now 50% again, which doesn't make sense because the Cafeiros clearly had majority and that's why Alberto blackmailed Patricia. So wondering if that's a typo -Cristina still despicable as ever using her kid, and people think the kid friendship is cute. Nope. I'm hoping that is the main reason of the friendship and not a hint at a future pairing ala A/A Don't know what to think about Petra/Emilio/Blanca until we see Petra Marco was Mateo past enemy in the boarding school, he toke Mateo's girl friends. Right before Mateo's wedding Marco congrated Mateo and said something like if you late for the wedding I may take her also. I hope this is not true.
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Post by Lara on Sept 9, 2016 16:52:22 GMT -5
Thanks Northbound! - Ok, not really worried about Carlos replacing Alberto in Ana's heart. Lol - The person who is probably saying Alberto is dead and demanding respect is Cristina since she does not want that revealed. - Adele and Alberto won't go anywhere, though it does seem like she accidentally reveals the information. If they are involved it only would annoy me because he has tons of lovers and they stick Ana with Carlos - sounds like Ana is going back to her roots at Dona Auroras - Pehaps Clara's relationship with Marco is more serious than once thought, but I can see her seeing him for who he is and kicking him to the curb at the end - they might end up legally taking Ana's line, this goes back to the PE tongue and cheek post on the collection pic about them knowing it's her line -the % of ownership of Velvet keeps changing. First it was 50% Orteguis, then 40%, now 50% again, which doesn't make sense because the Cafeiros clearly had majority and that's why Alberto blackmailed Patricia. So wondering if that's a typo -Cristina still despicable as ever using her kid, and people think the kid friendship is cute. Nope. I'm hoping that is the main reason of the friendship and not a hint at a future pairing ala A/A Don't know what to think about Petra/Emilio/Blanca until we see Petra Marco was Mateo past enemy in the boarding school, he toke Mateo's girl friends. Right before Mateo's wedding Marco congrated Mateo and said something like if you late for the wedding I may take her also. I hope this is not true. Yup, total foreshadowing.
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Post by Lara on Oct 5, 2016 14:27:16 GMT -5
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Post by northboundtrain on Oct 5, 2016 18:22:57 GMT -5
Thank you for the interview, Lara. I wish I could help with the translation! Here's something I can help with...or rather, Google Translate can: official synopsis for 4x2: galeriasvelvet.mizonatv.com/sinopsis-fotos-del-4x02-velvet-mas-una-cara-bonita/* Mateo returns to Velvet under a set of conditions which Enzo accepts and which enrage Marco. * Marco responds by informing Ana that the cost of her project will be the elimination of employee housing, which Ana refuses to agree to. * Adele comes to see the work of Philippe Rey and "especially the red dress" (not clear if this means a work of Ana's or THE red dress). Adele tells Cristina a huge secret that would change Ana's life. (Obviously that Alberto's alive, but the synopsis doesn't say that.) * Emilio and Blanca go to Aurorita's wake and see Petra, Emilio's former love. * Rita goes to the doctor and learns she has breast cancer. * (Not sure if I have this right...) Marco chooses Pedro to be his personal assistant, not realizing that Marco/Enrique plan to use him to bring down Ana? Would fit with what AL (Pedro) said in that interview about Pedro not seeing the evil motives of others. * Jonas is ready to be Raul's new tailor, but he worries about what his father will say to the idea of his firstborn son being involved in sewing.
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Post by Lara on Oct 5, 2016 19:20:33 GMT -5
Thank you for the interview, Lara. I wish I could help with the translation! Here's something I can help with...or rather, Google Translate can: official synopsis for 4x2: galeriasvelvet.mizonatv.com/sinopsis-fotos-del-4x02-velvet-mas-una-cara-bonita/* Mateo returns to Velvet under a set of conditions which Enzo accepts and which enrage Marco. * Marco responds by informing Ana that the cost of her project will be the elimination of employee housing, which Ana refuses to agree to. * Adele comes to see the work of Philippe Rey and "especially the red dress" (not clear if this means a work of Ana's or THE red dress). Adele tells Cristina a huge secret that would change Ana's life. (Obviously that Alberto's alive, but the synopsis doesn't say that.) * Emilio and Blanca go to Aurorita's wake and see Petra, Emilio's former love. * Rita goes to the doctor and learns she has breast cancer. * (Not sure if I have this right...) Marco chooses Pedro to be his personal assistant, not realizing that Marco/Enrique plan to use him to bring down Ana? Would fit with what AL (Pedro) said in that interview about Pedro not seeing the evil motives of others. * Jonas is ready to be Raul's new tailor, but he worries about what his father will say to the idea of his firstborn son being involved in sewing. Thanks, hopefully VV or alfi can do it. The housing trade off is interesting. Marco is a full on bastard that they all seem to hate. Poor Pedro. I still think Marco and Enrique will screw over Ana by taking credit for the collection after all the work she and Mateo put in. I keep wondering at this point why she is still so loyal to Velvet. It's not the same Velvet as in the past. Oh, the red dress has to be the dress. Maybe Alberto did send Adele, but the Cristina reveal doesn't make sense. Unless Adele knows Cristina's history and is up to no good. I didn't think they would make another obsessive psycho, but who knows. The only thing is, it did seem like a very organic reveal to Cristina. I am surprised no Carlos, I take this as a good sign. My new theory is that she will turn him down and he will want to talk to her like S3, hence she is waiting in the rain for him when Mateo and Alberto pull up. I guess we'll know in a few weeks.
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Post by Camille on Oct 6, 2016 7:11:38 GMT -5
Thanks Northbound for the up date. I have to tell you, it's been really hard for me to not read the threads while trying to keep my suspense until I can watch with subs. Lara, Marco is turning out to be a total jerk. He and Enrique are two of a kind. I cannot wait to see how tough Ana really is because she is certainly going to need thicker skin dealing with Enrique and Marco. My hope is that Ana will crush them when she finds them out. If Adele proves to be another physco, Ana's going to have put in her big girl pants because she's going to need them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 7:16:37 GMT -5
Thank you for the interview, Lara. I wish I could help with the translation! Here's something I can help with...or rather, Google Translate can: official synopsis for 4x2: galeriasvelvet.mizonatv.com/sinopsis-fotos-del-4x02-velvet-mas-una-cara-bonita/* Mateo returns to Velvet under a set of conditions which Enzo accepts and which enrage Marco. * Marco responds by informing Ana that the cost of her project will be the elimination of employee housing, which Ana refuses to agree to. * Adele comes to see the work of Philippe Rey and "especially the red dress" (not clear if this means a work of Ana's or THE red dress). Adele tells Cristina a huge secret that would change Ana's life. (Obviously that Alberto's alive, but the synopsis doesn't say that.) * Emilio and Blanca go to Aurorita's wake and see Petra, Emilio's former love. * Rita goes to the doctor and learns she has breast cancer. * (Not sure if I have this right...) Marco chooses Pedro to be his personal assistant, not realizing that Marco/Enrique plan to use him to bring down Ana? Would fit with what AL (Pedro) said in that interview about Pedro not seeing the evil motives of others. * Jonas is ready to be Raul's new tailor, but he worries about what his father will say to the idea of his firstborn son being involved in sewing. Good job decoding Google translation . The especially red dress part is probably bad writing, because it implies she wants to check Ana's designs when she hid behind the french nickname Philippe Ray (which may be true), and also that Ana designed a new red dress that was part of those designs (which is highly unlikely). I suppose Adele wants to know about Ana designs in general and also look for THE red dress.
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Post by northboundtrain on Oct 6, 2016 7:58:08 GMT -5
Yeah, Lara and alfi, I think you're right about the red dress. I guess Alberto's sent Adele to get it? Did A/A ever get it back from Cristina? How does Adele presume to get it back?
Or maybe Alberto didn't send her to get it, just told her about it, and now she's curious to see it (since she seems to be in love with Alberto). No matter what, I like this twist involving the red dress because 1. it's something we didn't know from spoilers, and 2. it'll be nice to have it make at least one last appearance, given how important it is to the show.
Re: Marco, it's really telling how pissed off he is about Mateo coming back to Velvet. I thought maybe he'd enjoy it so he could rub Clara in Mateo's face, but now I'm wondering if maybe he's worried about Mateo/Clara working together again. Given the way Clara's been reacting to even the mere mention of Mateo's name, I'd say Marco is right to be concerned.
I mean, obviously Marco also doesn't want Mateo there because he just doesn't want Ana to bring ready-to-wear to Velvet and he sees this as a power-play from Ana designed to do just that. But I also think Clara factors in...not because Marco is in love with Clara (I doubt he is) but because he sees her as a trophy he's won from Mateo.
Also, did anyone else get the idea that maybe when Ana said Alberto Jr.'s name on TV that might be the first time she ever revealed the name of her child? If Ana's been keeping his name secret (to try to keep him from the public eye), that could be another hint that Alberto knows Ana has a child but believes, if he doesn't know the kid's name, that he's Carlos's.
I don't know...I'm just hunting for a much better reason for Alberto to have stayed away from Madrid for all these years...thinking Ana had Carlos's kid would do it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 8:29:00 GMT -5
THIS IS A SPOILER/TEASER FOR THE SECOND EPISODE... AND ALSO FROM THE FIRST ONE, A BIG ONE, SO IF YOU ARE HERE BY MISTAKE! GO AWAY!www.antena3.com/series/velvet/momentos/adele-se-encargara-de-hacerle-saber-a-ana-que-alberto-esta-triunfando-en-nueva-york_2016100557f57b8e0cf2a2e945b13f1a.htmlAdele will handle telling Ana that Alberto is triumphing in New York. Adele Lavigne arrives at night to the "Galerías Velvet" ready to talk with Ana and tell her Alberto Marquez is interested in her designs for his atelier in New York. Oblivious to what happened, Adele arrives with a truth that will change everything... Letter: "Dear Alberto, I'm already at Velvet. Soon i will know your admired Ana, and i will tell her about your wish of getting some of her designs in New York. Kisses, Adele." I think she went rogue, and she is not under Alberto command, how she looks the letter before sending it, like saying "There i go"... She knows a lot about Ana from Alberto, (Philippe Ray, red dress... from the synopsis of the second episode), but she doesn't really know who Ana really is, she is there to know about that, hiding under the fact that Alberto wants Ana designs, kind of "but i thought that you wanted" blatant lie. Spoiler from the first episode:Rita told Ana about meeting some gentlemen in London (met other men, she may not like Carlos for Ana? hehe), but Ana went: And Carlos? Ana is in a serious relationship with Carlos, he is not friend zoned, she misses him. They travel a lot because their jobs and they can't be together often, so if Alberto knows about that, and that she has a child, with blue eyes... Enough reason to not wanting to go back to Madrid and don't confront that bitter reality, so much, that it took some time to contact Mateo again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 10:56:02 GMT -5
By the way... even if PE spoke about how Ana is now more "tough" or "hardened", that she is, she also is...more cool? i mean, she knows which thread to pull to get what she wants, way more direct and mature but playful? like when she asks Mateo for help with the pret a porter, something she knows she is going to get, and begin with the sad little girl face until he agrees to help her. I like her a lot, she was having fun speaking with Mateo about Clara or with Clara about Mateo. www.antena3.com/series/velvet/momentos/el-dia-maldito-de-clara-y-mateo_2016100557f57a310cf2fd8cc6a7effe.htmlThe damned day of Clara and Mateo. Mateo left the Galeries when Clara and him separated and the tension between them became unsustainable. Almost five years later they still remember that day when all broke. Both deny to remember it, but is evident that its a sad day for both... What happened that supposed damned day? ( or accursed, fateful day,i don't know which one is the equivalent in english)
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Post by Lara on Oct 6, 2016 12:36:55 GMT -5
Thanks Northbound for the up date. I have to tell you, it's been really hard for me to not read the threads while trying to keep my suspense until I can watch with subs. Lara, Marco is turning out to be a total jerk. He and Enrique are two of a kind. I cannot wait to see how tough Ana really is because she is certainly going to need thicker skin dealing with Enrique and Marco. My hope is that Ana will crush them when she finds them out. If Adele proves to be another physco, Ana's going to have put in her big girl pants because she's going to need them. It was really hard to watch without the subs. Since we knew a lot from the leaks, this one wasn't so hard. I also actually knew maybe 25% of what they were saying. Going forward though, I'm not sure I will watch without the subs because it's too frustrating. Staying away from spoilers will be tough for me too. Yes, Marco is full on rotten! Nobody seems to like him except Clara😛 I'm glad Mateo moved on to bigger and better things professionally, seeing him work under Marco would have been excruciating. It's sad seeing the store under control of Marco and the Oteguis, I think that's another reason the show feels very different. It also cancels out everything Alberto did to save it. I think Ana getting an ally in Mateo is a good thing, but the Oteguis/Caiferos have the power. It's like Ana fights so hard for something that they will profit from the most. That's why I don't understand why she doesn't leave for greener pastures, especially with Cristina back. I think she'll leave in the end, but the most I want for Ana is to do things by free will, not because they are tossed in her lap. Adele... See below. I always wondered where it went and if we'd see it again. I think we will, but it's tainted now after Cristina wore it. I assumed Cristina had it, unless Enrique brought it back to the store. I was never sure if she knew the dress was tied to Ana, hopefully not, because she would have shred it to pieces. Adele might factor in more than we thought. Now that we know from the book that she had some sort of personal relationship with Alberto, it's possible she's going to be deceptive. There's no way she goes through with telling Ana about Alberto. So my first guess is Cristina will convince Adele not to tell Ana and then she will start plotting to keep the information quiet. That may involve fake correspondence that Alberto thinks is coming from Ana. The second guess is Adele tells Cristina knowing the history, but it's so out of character for Alberto to reveal that unless he has a deep relationship with this woman. I still come back to the question though, why would Adele tell anybody if she wants to keep it a secret? Will she know Cristina is nuts and will help prevent it? It just seems so far out there. I'm going with Cristina somehow convincing Adele to keep quiet. It's going to all backfire on Ana. Marco is going to make her pay for going over his head. I kept thinking while watching, what was she thinking? Marco could make her life impossible and if Enzo dies, he's got absolute power. Wasn't really sure what to make of the Clara/Marco relationship, that's were time and subtitles will help. I was surprised that she and Mateo only lasted a year if I understood correctly. Yeah, it probably was, but she revealed it now so he's got to put 2 and 2 together if he sees it. I still lean towards him not knowing. Look at the Cristina is reveal. Enrique tried to tell her, but they made her come face to face with her for the most dramatic effect. Was anyone else surprised she didn't tell Rita, Mateo or Emilio that Cristina was back? Something like that would have definitely been discussed in S1 and 2. Was that Luisa on the cover of the next Eco edition? I thought so, but wasn't 100% sure. Great, if it was.
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Post by Christine on Oct 6, 2016 15:24:48 GMT -5
Thanks Northbound for the up date. I have to tell you, it's been really hard for me to not read the threads while trying to keep my suspense until I can watch with subs. Lara, Marco is turning out to be a total jerk. He and Enrique are two of a kind. I cannot wait to see how tough Ana really is because she is certainly going to need thicker skin dealing with Enrique and Marco. My hope is that Ana will crush them when she finds them out. If Adele proves to be another physco, Ana's going to have put in her big girl pants because she's going to need them. It was really hard to watch without the subs. Since we knew a lot from the leaks, this one wasn't so hard. I also actually knew maybe 25% of what they were saying. Going forward though, I'm not sure I will watch without the subs because it's too frustrating. Staying away from spoilers will be tough for me too. Yes, Marco is full on rotten! Nobody seems to like him except Clara😛 I'm glad Mateo moved on to bigger and better things professionally, seeing him work under Marco would have been excruciating. It's sad seeing the store under control of Marco and the Oteguis, I think that's another reason the show feels very different. It also cancels out everything Alberto did to save it. I think Ana getting an ally in Mateo is a good thing, but the Oteguis/Caiferos have the power. It's like Ana fights so hard for something that they will profit from the most. That's why I don't understand why she doesn't leave for greener pastures, especially with Cristina back. I think she'll leave in the end, but the most I want for Ana is to do things by free will, not because they are tossed in her lap. Adele... See below. I always wondered where it went and if we'd see it again. I think we will, but it's tainted now after Cristina wore it. I assumed Cristina had it, unless Enrique brought it back to the store. I was never sure if she knew the dress was tied to Ana, hopefully not, because she would have shred it to pieces. Adele might factor in more than we thought. Now that we know from the book that she had some sort of personal relationship with Alberto, it's possible she's going to be deceptive. There's no way she goes through with telling Ana about Alberto. So my first guess is Cristina will convince Adele not to tell Ana and then she will start plotting to keep the information quiet. That may involve fake correspondence that Alberto thinks is coming from Ana. The second guess is Adele tells Cristina knowing the history, but it's so out of character for Alberto to reveal that unless he has a deep relationship with this woman. I still come back to the question though, why would Adele tell anybody if she wants to keep it a secret? Will she know Cristina is nuts and will help prevent it? It just seems so far out there. I'm going with Cristina somehow convincing Adele to keep quiet. It's going to all backfire on Ana. Marco is going to make her pay for going over his head. I kept thinking while watching, what was she thinking? Marco could make her life impossible and if Enzo dies, he's got absolute power. Wasn't really sure what to make of the Clara/Marco relationship, that's were time and subtitles will help. I was surprised that she and Mateo only lasted a year if I understood correctly. Yeah, it probably was, but she revealed it now so he's got to put 2 and 2 together if he sees it. I still lean towards him not knowing. Look at the Cristina is reveal. Enrique tried to tell her, but they made her come face to face with her for the most dramatic effect. Was anyone else surprised she didn't tell Rita, Mateo or Emilio that Cristina was back? Something like that would have definitely been discussed in S1 and 2. Was that Luisa on the cover of the next Eco edition? I thought so, but wasn't 100% sure. Great, if it was. 👋 hi guys I enjoyed the first episode very much I understand mostly everything can't wait for subtitles by the way guys I have learned a lot of Spanish since I started watching velvet everyone seems to hate spoilers I love ❤️ them I don't like surprises 😱Cannot wait for next week now let's get down to business here is my take on the Alberto Adele story I don't think Alberto knows she was going to Madrid I believe she and Alberto is in some kind of relationship she wants more but he cannot commit to her or anyone else because the only woman he ever loved and still love ❤️ is Ann he spoke to Adele about ann and the kind of relationship they had but he didn't tell her about everyone in Madrid believing that he is dead yes I believe he knows that people believe he is dead at some point he came back to Madrid and sees Ann Carlos and the kid he thinks the kid is for Carlos and that Ann has rebuilt her life out of love ❤️ for her he desided to stay dead so he went to New York where he will be living soon in real life 🤑 (Laugh) what I am dying to know is how the writers are going to explain why he didn't get in touch with Mateo his best friend/brother the guy almost has a nervous breakdown when he has to deal with his death could you guys forgive a friend that does that to you I couldn't by the way I love spoilers i don't like waiting 😜 So keep them coming
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