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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2016 7:13:02 GMT -5
When the episodes are aired in Spain, does Antena3 show them only simultaneously online or will the episodes stay online for a certain period? About 2-4 hour later for Spain, i'm not sure, and i suppose they allow the streaming of the episode for Spain and the rest of the world at the same time. That was one year ago though. Alberto will know that Ana thought he was dead, and Ana will know that Alberto thought she had rebuilt her life, so they are going to probably feel cheated (and maybe a burst of anger). Mateo is who is going to New York to find who this Alberto Marquez is, if he tells Ana about him she may dismiss the idea of Alberto being still alive, she may begin to inquire after the revelation, she has the coca cola bottle with the silk route leaflet, she may ask Pedro if she received letters from Philip Ray. At the same time, once Mateo reveals to Alberto that Ana's son is his son, that also will have a lot of implications for Alberto.
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Post by Lara on Sept 28, 2016 11:57:15 GMT -5
You are talking based on the picture, not before hand, correct? It's going to bittersweet all the way around. Ok, something interesting I picked up on, Carlos is going to be involved somehow in the rain reunionπ‘ I was looking through IG pictures last night and he was shooting in the same rain scenes as the reunion and there's a picture of his car wet. Anyone care to speculate on how he's involved? My only guess is that's when Alberto will see Ana with him, but I have no idea of how that will happen. Miguel deleted and reposted the pic with Ana which is why it disappeared from the other post https://www.instagram.com/p/BK37grqjEsC Northbound, we at least know that Patricia is at the hunt. https://www.instagram.com/p/BK59frEjKS2
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Post by northboundtrain on Sept 28, 2016 15:59:11 GMT -5
Thank you for the pics, Lara. Now I'm starting to wonder if maybe she's the one who kills Valentin and not Enrique.
Re: PV shooting in the rain...maybe that's why Ana's out in the street by Velvet...maybe she's with Carlos in the rain and they have an argument or something and she runs off, coincidentally arriving at Velvet at the same time as Alberto/Mateo?
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Post by Camille on Sept 28, 2016 18:08:28 GMT -5
Thank you for the pics, Lara. Now I'm starting to wonder if maybe she's the one who kills Valentin and not Enrique. Re: PV shooting in the rain...maybe that's why Ana's out in the street by Velvet...maybe she's with Carlos in the rain and they have an argument or something and she runs off, coincidentally arriving at Velvet at the same time as Alberto/Mateo? Thanks for the pics Lara. So P/V were both hunting with Enrique whuch explains why P/E are possibly being investigated. I can see V shooting himself, that would not be surprising coming from him. He is not very focused when he's around Patricia. I like Northbound idea about why Carlos is there in the rain. He probably picked Ana up from work and pressured her for an answer to his marriage proposal and she probably politely declined again. Carlos knowing Alberto is coming soon would be erratic again. Ana probably did run from his car and runs into Mateo or maybe she sees Alberto and waits for him.
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Post by Lara on Sept 28, 2016 18:37:20 GMT -5
You're welcome ladies.
I think either theory regarding Valentin is possible. Patricia killing him would make more sense than Enrique doing it. I think the audience would be more forgiving towards her and Enrique possibly taking the rap for it would possibly redeem him in some viewers eyes. I could also see it being an accident, though the intent is definitely underlying with P/E.
With Carlos, I was wondering if maybe the way we saw it in the trailer was edited and she's won't be standing there when Alberto and Mateo pull up. The theory of Ana and Carlos arguing makes sense. I was thinking this might be the time when Alberto sees them, but maybe not. Could it be he sees them and leaves and Mateo brings him back?
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Post by Admin on Sept 28, 2016 22:49:13 GMT -5
Very interesting theories. And where have I been that I didn't know it was confirmed that Valentin dies? haha
And I agree with your theories about Ana possibly arguing with Carlos again before that rain reunion. The promos can be misleading so we'll see.
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Post by sunshine4 on Sept 29, 2016 9:56:48 GMT -5
I am hoping...Ana and Carlos are fighting and he sees Mateo and Alberto drive by. He runs after them and Mateo doesn't seem him and hits him. Good bye Carlos!!! Ok ok it probably won't happen but dang that would be a great ending for Carlos. Ok maybe Carlos just dropped off Ana in the alley and Mateo and Alberto drive in the front. She runs up to see Mateo and wham there is the reunion. Hopefully Carlos sees them kissing...and leaves for good. A girl can hope right!
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Post by Camille on Sept 29, 2016 12:24:12 GMT -5
I am hoping...Ana and Carlos are fighting and he sees Mateo and Alberto drive by. He runs after them and Mateo doesn't seem him and hits him. Good bye Carlos!!! Ok ok it probably won't happen but dang that would be a great ending for Carlos. Ok maybe Carlos just dropped off Ana in the alley and Mateo and Alberto drive in the front. She runs up to see Mateo and wham there is the reunion. Hopefully Carlos sees them kissing...and leaves for good. A girl can hope right! Lol...Hillarious. Yes a girl can hope. πππ
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Post by Camille on Sept 29, 2016 12:37:03 GMT -5
Very interesting theories. And where have I been that I didn't know it was confirmed that Valentin dies? haha And I agree with your theories about Ana possibly arguing with Carlos again before that rain reunion. The promos can be misleading so we'll see. That's funny Admin. It hasn't been confirmed that V is dead. The group was posting and viewing previous pics in which Patricia is seen wearing a lot of black so we assumed V is the one who died. One of the cast mention someone dies this season so we assumed it was V and I went with it. βΊοΈ I like Sunshines theory about Carlos even better. π Just kidding. But, I do hope he leaves and finally face defeat where Ana is concerned and let A/A be happy.
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Post by Lara on Sept 29, 2016 13:13:46 GMT -5
I suppose Carlos and Ana don't necessarily have to be fighting, she could just be walking in and see Mateo pull up late night and wonder what the he's doing there. I still have a strong feeling this is when Alberto will see them together unless Alberto Jr. is so attached to him that she still sees him platonically for a while. Of course this is all before it's revealed that he knew the whole time about Alberto being alive.
Another thing I thought of is if Alberto has access to Spanish magazines, which he does since he saw Mateo's cover, how does he not know Ana has a son named Alberto Marquez? In one of the clips she dedicates her award to him, saying his name, in front of a ton of media. I think they're going to selectively choose information Alberto knows, like he'll know Ana is successful, but not that she had his child. I can't see that ever being an off camera reveal. I fully expect Mateo to say you have a son and Alberto to look confused and be like que? He'll probably think Mateo's referring to Cristina's baby. I just thought of another scenario.... Maybe Alberto saw a picture of Carlos and Ana in a magazine! He might assume she has a son with him, but the name and age is such a dead give away.
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Post by Admin on Sept 29, 2016 14:15:45 GMT -5
Very interesting theories. And where have I been that I didn't know it was confirmed that Valentin dies? haha And I agree with your theories about Ana possibly arguing with Carlos again before that rain reunion. The promos can be misleading so we'll see. That's funny Admin. It hasn't been confirmed that V is dead. The group was posting and viewing previous pics in which Patricia is seen wearing a lot of black so we assumed V is the one who died. One of the cast mention someone dies this season so we assumed it was V and I went with it. βΊοΈ I like Sunshines theory about Carlos even better. π Just kidding. But, I do hope he leaves and finally face defeat where Ana is concerned and let A/A be happy. Oh right. I remember discussion about her wearing a lot of black. That makes sense. lol And yeah no matter how much I think about it, there's no way Alberto couldn't have figured out that Ana's child is also his son. I was thinking maybe he thought she had one with Carlos but then it doesn't explain why she would name him after him if she didn't think he was dead. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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Post by Camille on Sept 29, 2016 15:53:57 GMT -5
I suppose Carlos and Ana don't necessarily have to be fighting, she could just be walking in and see Mateo pull up late night and wonder what the he's doing there. I still have a strong feeling this is when Alberto will see them together unless Alberto Jr. is so attached to him that she still sees him platonically for a while. Of course this is all before it's revealed that he knew the whole time about Alberto being alive. Another thing I thought of is if Alberto has access to Spanish magazines, which he does since he saw Mateo's cover, how does he not know Ana has a son named Alberto Marquez? In one of the clips she dedicates her award to him, saying his name, in front of a ton of media. I think they're going to selectively choose information Alberto knows, like he'll know Ana is successful, but not that she had his child. I can't see that ever being an off camera reveal. I fully expect Mateo to say you have a son and Alberto to look confused and be like que? He'll probably think Mateo's referring to Cristina's baby. I just thought of another scenario.... Maybe Alberto saw a picture of Carlos and Ana in a magazine! He might assume she has a son with him, but the name and age is such a dead give away. I don't know Lara, when Ana is standing in the rain waiting for Alberto to get out of Mateo car, five years would have past. Remember in the promo trailer Mateo says he's going to New York to see where Alberto has been all this these many years and he must bring Alberto back with him and he wishes Alberto good luck. I think your other theory about the writers being selective about what Alberto knows may ring true. Alberto probably does see the article with a pic of A/C and Alberto Jr and assume the child is Carlis child. Judging from the pic you post, A/A expression have the look like someone who has just been given some disturbing news like, Alberto Jr. Is Alberto's son and not Carlos. Alfi, here l go with my imagination again.βΊοΈ
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Post by Christine on Sept 29, 2016 16:22:18 GMT -5
I suppose Carlos and Ana don't necessarily have to be fighting, she could just be walking in and see Mateo pull up late night and wonder what the he's doing there. I still have a strong feeling this is when Alberto will see them together unless Alberto Jr. is so attached to him that she still sees him platonically for a while. Of course this is all before it's revealed that he knew the whole time about Alberto being alive. Another thing I thought of is if Alberto has access to Spanish magazines, which he does since he saw Mateo's cover, how does he not know Ana has a son named Alberto Marquez? In one of the clips she dedicates her award to him, saying his name, in front of a ton of media. I think they're going to selectively choose information Alberto knows, like he'll know Ana is successful, but not that she had his child. I can't see that ever being an off camera reveal. I fully expect Mateo to say you have a son and Alberto to look confused and be like que? He'll probably think Mateo's referring to Cristina's baby. I just thought of another scenario.... Maybe Alberto saw a picture of Carlos and Ana in a magazine! He might assume she has a son with him, but the name and age is such a dead give away. I don't know Lara, when Ana is standing in the rain waiting for Alberto to get out of Mateo car, five years would have past. Remember in the promo trailer Mateo says he's going to New York to see where Alberto has been all this these many years and he must bring Alberto back with him and he wishes Alberto good luck. I think your other theory about the writers being selective about what Alberto knows may ring true. Alberto probably does see the article with a pic of A/C and Alberto Jr and assume the child is Carlis child. Judging from the pic you post, A/A expression have the look like someone who has just been given some disturbing news like, Alberto Jr. Is Alberto's son and not Carlos. Alfi, here l go with my imagination again.βΊοΈ Camille I am going to put my two cents in Mateo tells Ann about the letter and that he is going to New York to see if it is the real Alberto Mateo found Alberto he told Alberto to call Ann remember the picture with Alberto at the telephone βοΈ booth and Mateo standing behind him Ann and Alberto spoke Ann is π‘ but she agreed for them to meet hence the rain βοΈ meeting πππ
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2016 18:14:38 GMT -5
Well, it's a weird reunion place, in the front of the galleries, and they don't live there anymore, but meaningful for both of course. There was like a sense of urgency in that call from New York to Spain, so it's probably they (Alberto and Mateo) want to stop Ana and Carlos wedding, maybe they arrive late and they are already married . I still think that is Ana who is going to discover that Alberto is still alive by herself, when Peter spoke about Carlos he remarked the fact that Carlos felt very secure, he may do a mistake. I was going to be a bit evil and elaborate the idea that Carlos may end with Ana, he is the only father Alberto junior has known and Ana is that stu... i mean, good person, with that sad photo of Alberto and Ana being the realization that they will never be together... but i don't feel that evil today
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Post by Christine on Sept 29, 2016 18:43:38 GMT -5
Well, it's a weird reunion place, in the front of the galleries, and they don't live there anymore, but meaningful for both of course. There was like a sense of urgency in that call from New York to Spain, so it's probably they (Alberto and Mateo) want to stop Ana and Carlos wedding, maybe they arrive late and they are already married . I still think that is Ana who is going to discover that Alberto is still alive by herself, when Peter spoke about Carlos he remarked the fact that Carlos felt very secure, he may do a mistake. I was going to be a bit evil and elaborate the idea that Carlos may end with Ana, he is the only father Alberto junior has known and Ana is that stu... i mean, good person, with that sad photo of Alberto and Ana being the realization that they will never be together... but i don't feel that evil today you can wake up from your dream π€π€π±Now Alfi that will never happen and Ann will say yes to Carlos but they will never get married ππΏ
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