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Post by northboundtrain on Aug 8, 2016 17:09:06 GMT -5
So, are there any more shows after the birth of the baby in the church or is this the end? No, it's not the end yet. There's another season of eleven episodes that just finished filming in Spain. It will air next month. |
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Post by wordwiz on Aug 10, 2016 10:22:24 GMT -5
First, Alberto risks his relationship with Ana (and his own integrity), by behaving as if, holding on to Velvet, is the most important thing.
Then, in the end... the hell with Velvet! It's hard to understand, why he didn't do things, the other way around -- walk away from the whole dirty deal, in the first place.
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Post by Lara on Aug 10, 2016 15:49:20 GMT -5
First, Alberto risks his relationship with Ana (and his own integrity), by behaving as if, holding on to Velvet, is the most important thing. Then, in the end... the hell with Velvet! It's hard to understand, why he didn't do things, the other way around -- walk away from the whole dirty deal, in the first place. Pretty much, but then we wouldn't have a show.  Everything is in hindsight though. I don't think he ever expected Cristina to go off her head the way she did. When he really should have called everything off was when Gerardo found the letter and Alberto gave him shares to keep the deal. After that he was stuck with the Orteguis indefinitely. In the end he realized Ana was more important to him than the store and he lost her. If Ana gave the go ahead in the beginning, he would have picked her over the store then too. If he waited around a couple of weeks they no doubt would have been back together when she found out she was pregnant. But, yeah, in the end they could have avoided everything and been together had he just sold at least a piece of the business to begin with. Ana actually benefitted much, much more because she might not have gotten the opportunities to design had it not been for Alberto. |
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Post by wordwiz on Aug 11, 2016 10:00:51 GMT -5
Pretty much, but then we wouldn't have a show. Everything is in hindsight though. I don't think he ever expected Cristina to go off her head the way she did. When he really should have called everything off was when Gerardo found the letter and Alberto gave him shares to keep the deal. After that he was stuck with the Orteguis indefinitely. In the end he realized Ana was more important to him than the store and he lost her. If Ana gave the go ahead in the beginning, he would have picked her over the store then too. If he waited around a couple of weeks they no doubt would have been back together when she found out she was pregnant. But, yeah, in the end they could have avoided everything and been together had he just sold at least a piece of the business to begin with. Ana actually benefitted much, much more because she might not have gotten the opportunities to design had it not been for Alberto. [/quote] |
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Post by wordwiz on Aug 11, 2016 10:09:05 GMT -5
True, the the drama of the cliffhangers, is what keeps us holding on, In anxious anticipation of what happens next. But sometimes it angers me that it really shouldn't have been Ana's call, on keeping Velvet at such a high cost. And yes, people's jobs were at stake and in the end, the the Cafieros modernization plan, everyone's having to move out anyhow and some will grow out of their Velvet jobs and venture out on their own, anyhow.. that's life and in-and-of-itself, it usually makes for some great drama.
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Post by Lara on Aug 11, 2016 11:53:53 GMT -5
Everything that has transpired on the show was a direct result of that bad decision. It was a selfless decision on Ana's part, but stupid. Ultimately Alberto shouldn't have listened and gone through with it, so that's on him. She told him not to go through with it, but he still did. She lost personally, but gained professionally. He lost completely.
It might be a good thing that the Caiferos are making these changes, not from a viewer perspective, but from a storyline one. Something that I wish they would save explored more is the staid nature of working at Velvet. They touched upon it with the panic if the store closed and Emilio and Blanca making the store their life, even Rita talking about how life doesn't get better for people like her and Ana. I really feel like Ana was on the same road as everyone else there, had it not been for Alberto. He gave her the opportunity and the push to be promoted. It's just kind of sad no one else got any of the same opportunities for promotion. Pedro spent years and years being a delivery man and waiting for Emilio to retire. Of course, in real life, many people have to leave jobs to and go elsewhere to get promotions. I always wondered if all the staff lives there, I thought the older gray haired seamstress might not, but then she was in a scene waiting for the bathroom. I would think some had families to go home to.
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Post by Carlucc on Aug 21, 2016 11:10:30 GMT -5
I think Cristina was mentally ill from the beginning and it just got worse as time progressed. She was constantly in Alberto's face. Her father said at the beginning that she turned down suitors because she wanted Alberto.. And because she was so spoiled he bought her a marriage. She was constantly meddling and would always look offended if Alberto told her to butt out. If she was a good person she would not have been so condescending with the employees. When Alberto told Cristina about Isabel at the beginning she told him to ignore her. When he said that Isabel was moving in she was not happy. She even tried to use Isabel to get to Alberto.
I loved the Rita/Pedro. It was comic relief after some of the intense scenes with AnaAlberto. I also loved Mateo/Clara.
I hope they get rid of Carlos...can't stand him. Maybe they should consider a Marco/Ana instead until Alberto comes back.
I refuse to watch sense8 because I don't want it to spoil the Alberto character.
I am obsessed with this series. I have watched it twice...have picked up some Spanish and plan to watch it again!
All the actors do an amazing job of portraying their characters. I have yet to see any North American series combine comedy and drama the way this series does.
Has anyone considered the possibility that Cristina's baby does not survive and now Cristina's obsession will be Ana/Alberto's baby?
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Post by northboundtrain on Aug 21, 2016 23:09:58 GMT -5
I am obsessed with this series. I have watched it twice...have picked up some Spanish and plan to watch it again! All the actors do an amazing job of portraying their characters. I have yet to see any North American series combine comedy and drama the way this series does. Has anyone considered the possibility that Cristina's baby does not survive and now Cristina's obsession will be Ana/Alberto's baby? Welcome to the board! The actress who plays Cristina said in an interview earlier this year that when we see Cristina again she is a mother, so unless that was misdirection, she did have the baby. |
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Post by Adela on Sept 20, 2016 23:41:46 GMT -5
Good day everyone I am on season 2 and just read that Albeto is dying
Can anyone tell how is going to happen ?
Thank you
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Post by northboundtrain on Sept 21, 2016 0:16:26 GMT -5
Good day everyone I am on season 2 and just read that Albeto is dying Can anyone tell how is going to happen ? Thank you Hello and welcome! Alberto doesn't actually die. Everyone just thinks he's dead because of a miscommunication about which flight he took when he left Madrid in Season 3 -- the plane he was supposed to be on crashed, and the one he actually was on didn't. |
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Post by sunshine4 on Sept 22, 2016 16:10:37 GMT -5
Good day everyone I am on season 2 and just read that Albeto is dying Can anyone tell how is going to happen ? Thank you Hello and welcome! Alberto doesn't actually die. Everyone just thinks he's dead because of a miscommunication about which flight he took when he left Madrid in Season 3 -- the plane he was supposed to be on crashed, and the one he actually was on didn't. You need to watch season three  |
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Post by MJPare on Dec 3, 2016 11:54:42 GMT -5
I have to say that I think Cristina gets the rough end of the stick. In S3, Ana says 'I realise I have always been her victim.' I don't see that. Cristina was a kind, loving woman who wanted to make Alberto happy. She had no idea Ana was a threat at all. It was Ana who played with Cristina's life and happiness and convinced Alberto to marry Cristina even though he didn't love her. I don't blame Alberto because he didn't want to go through with it in the first place, but there's no mistake, Ana was the bad guy in the Ana / Cristina match-up. Sure Cristina's recent behaviour has been less than exemplary, but she's right when she says Alberto made her that way. And Alberto made her that way, because Ana forced him to. Ana wants to act like the squeaky clean good girl -- well she's not. I can't believe that no one else sees that. This series is an emotional roller coaster. I think one of my favorite parts was when Alberto was telling his problems to Ms. Ortega, she said "You believe that life led you here? Because from what I hear, you did it yourself. That's what growing up is. That and learning that happiness depends on yourself. Do yourself a favor. Stop regretting each decision and start taking responsibility for them." If only he had listened. He is gorgeous though in his tailored suits and sunglasses. In fact he's not the only one. It is! It makes it more interesting too. I can see how some people would be sympathetic towards Cristina at the beginning, but I don't see how it's Ana's fault. Ana deserves more of the blame for ruining her own relationship with Alberto, but he (and Gerardo) was the one who ultimately betrayed Cristina by marrying her under false pretenses. That's why it bothered me that she mainly attacked Ana for "stealing" her husband, which was untrue. You can't break up a marriage that was a sham from the start, but she was delusional. I always wanted Alberto to straight out tell her during one of her verbal tirades, "I married you for money and I never loved you." I know he said he didn't love her, but I think he needed to emphasize the first part. I stand by my other comment, in the end A/A suffered severest consequences -- him selling the store and disappearing for 5 years, her thinking he's dead and raising a child alone -- which all led back to the bad decision to marry Cristina. Cristina brought on her own problems with her scheming. So she gets no sympathy from me. |
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Everything is in hindsight though. I don't think he ever expected Cristina to go off her head the way she did. When he really should have called everything off was when Gerardo found the letter and Alberto gave him shares to keep the deal. After that he was stuck with the Orteguis indefinitely. In the end he realized Ana was more important to him than the store and he lost her. If Ana gave the go ahead in the beginning, he would have picked her over the store then too. 