Velvet S4 Official Previews (From S3 Finale)

I agree that it must have something to do with wanting to cut costs and maybe also wanting to modernize things if it's becoming increasingly less common in Europe at that time for workers at fashion houses to live at their place of employment (I have no idea how common this was or wasn't in the early '60s...just guessing).

I haven't been the biggest fan of the time jumps because it seems like their only real function has been to move the pregnancies forward and I worry that we did lose opportunity for character and relationship development in the process. It also makes it look less believable that Carlos has been able to keep the secret that Alberto is still alive. Hopefully, they'll abandon the time jumps in S4.

Back to Marco making everyone move out...while I've loved that everyone living together presents great story opportunities, I'm becoming more interested in seeing where everyone ends up. Obviously, Pedro/Rita will get a place of their own, and Clara will be moving in with Mateo anyway. Jonas could temporarily move in with Pedro/Rita until he can find a place of his own.

I can't remember, but have they established what's happened to the Marquez mansion? Are Patricia and Valentin going to live there, or do they have a place and I've just forgotten it? Did anyone ever say what happened to the house now that Alberto is presumed dead? If Patricia owns it, she should offer to let Ana and the baby live there. And Emilio will be fine, because Ana will take care of him whether he lives with her or whether she helps him find a place of his own.

Blanca, though...this will be a huge shake-up for her because she doesn't have children to support or a husband or lover to consider. Maybe when she's out apartment-hunting she could run into Max. (I WILL NEVER GIVE UP.)




While I would love to see Ana figure it out on her own, I'm bracing myself for the more likely option -- that he will show up at the wedding.

Carlos is a dead man. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he does end up dead and we get a "whodunnit?" murder mystery.




I wouldn't say Cristina's my favorite character, but I really wish the writers would do something different with her...would explore what it's like for her to rebuild her life for her and her child. This "psycho Cristina" stuff is so played out. How refreshing would it be if she found out the truth about Alberto, initially wanted to keep it a secret out of spite, and then decided to fess up?

But I don't think that's going to happen, if only because the writers will surely want the big moment of Alberto interrupting the wedding -- and there would be no wedding to interrupt if Cristina told Ana the truth.

I do think the show has undergone key changes since S1, and not all of them have worked out (IMO), but with Alberto's absence I think their hands are tied...they don't want to kill him off/write him off because he's way too popular, but they also had to figure out how to give MAS time off to film the second season of Sense8.




Yeah, Carlos/Ana ended in such an ugly fashion that I've had to make excuses for Ana's mindset on my own -- like she's consciously choosing to focus on the good times she had with Carlos rather than on the way he acted toward the end of the relationship.




I'm wondering if they didn't do Ana/Marco earlier because they were still trying to figure out which woman they wanted to put Marco with...there are several women on the show who currently lack serious love interests (I include Patricia and Lucia in that category, too, because I don't think Patricia/Enrique and Lucia/Jonas are written in stone yet). They may have been hesitant to "waste" Marco on Ana when the audience knows she will eventually end up with Alberto.

But, then again, they did have that scene in the finale, and that seemed to be written to get the audience wondering about Marco's feelings for her. So we'll have to see where it goes in S4.




Exactly. I thought the whole point of most of S3 was that she isn't really comfortable in the role of vindictive bitch. For so much of the early stuff, she had Barbara egging her on. I thought maybe when she was in the hospital that she'd start to reevaluate the choices she'd made. But that didn't happen, and I don't want to get my hopes up for S4.




I don't think the air date has been announced yet...until it is, all we can do is guess based on the filming schedule. This year, S3 began filming in April and began airing on September 10. PE said in a recent interview that S4 begins filming in February...so they're starting earlier than they did for S3, but I don't know if that means S4 will air any earlier.

No, I agree, I love that they have a closer relationship now...it's one of the good consequences of Alberto's "death" because that was the spark Patricia needed to reevaluate the way she'd been treating her brother and, by extension, Ana. If Alberto were still here, I don't think Patricia/Ana would interact much, if at all, and if they did it would probably be more coldly civil.




I took a peek inside the Sense8 spoiler thread on FanForum and I saw some fans in there posting Twitter comments from actors that indicate that filming has either started or is going to start soon...and the actors have scripts already. So I think the report about filming in March might be false and they are already filming...which would be excellent news, of course, because surely they'd be finished or close to being finished by April.

I'm thinking maybe he'll be gone for the first few episodes, but I can't see how it's a good idea to have him gone longer than that...especially if this is the last season.




It'd be a lot of fun to watch that role reversal -- Patricia/Ana on the same wave length and Alberto not really buying it.

Ugh, though if Patricia and Enrique are still a thing by the time Alberto comes back, that makes things messier (and not a good kind of messy, but a bad "why-are-they-destroying-Patricia's-character?" kind of messy).

I was really surprised when the renewal notice came in because I had just assumed that they'd stop at S3 (like GH did). Then I read that PE said that she wants it to go on as long as possible, and I started wondering about the longevity of the show. I love it and would love it to continue provided that the quality doesn't slip dramatically and make it painful to watch, but I see several possible issues:
1. Actor availability (especially MAS)
2. Ana/Alberto's "will they/won't they" -- the fact that they're apart is such an easy dramatic hook...but the longer it goes, the less believable it might be (especially since Ana just gave birth to Alberto's child, so IMO there'd need to be something SERIOUS happening in S4 to keep them from reuniting). The problem for the writers is that once they commit to Alberto/Ana getting married, they'd have to commit to giving them different kind of stories...would they still be compelling to most of the audience as a married couple raising a child? IMO, this would depend on the quality of the writing.
3. Ratings -- they slid for S3, but they're still pulling above GH's S2 and S3 ratings. If they can stay above 3 million, would that be enough for Anenta3 to keep renewing them?

Re: Alberto -- IMO, the show should end with Alberto and Patricia running Velvet...I'd be disappointed if Alberto and Ana just left to go try their luck elsewhere because (like Julio/Alicia) they want a fresh start, though I recognize that that's a possibility.




I KNOW! It feels a bit like salt in the wound that not only did they drop Patricia/Jonas, but then they went and put Patricia with Enrique when I thought she had grown beyond him. Why the character regression?

The one thing that gives me hope is the Jonas/Lucia working under Patricia twist from the finale. Assuming that isn't dropped in S4, Jonas/Patricia now have a reason to interact. Enrique is an unfortunate factor in the equation, but the writers could easily use both him and Valentin as tools to help Patricia see what she really wants/deserves -- i.e., Patricia gravitates towards Enrique and Valentin because they are "easy" to handle (both of her social class and not challenging at all), but both of them are wrong for her for different reasons. Jonas WAS "easy" to handle in the beginning, but things changed over the course of their affair...when Jonas started looking at Patricia in a different way (offering her a love that was honest/pure, unlike Enrique, and seeing her for who she really is, unlike Valentin), he stopped being "easy."

If the writers would have Patricia confront her feelings for these men and examine why she shut Jonas down, that could make for a really compelling story. Here's hoping they explore it in S4.

I know...that's another thing I was thinking about, that their other two big couples, Mateo/Clara and Rita/Pedro are now married, so the "will they/won't they?" factor is gone there as well. And, unfortunately, the show doesn't really have any other "will they/won't they?" couples waiting in the wings unless we count Patricia/Jonas or Jonas/Lucia, but they may have dropped the former (hope not, though!) and the latter hasn't had any development at all, so I can't imagine people in the audience are rooting for them. Blanca, Emilio and Raul are all single with no love interests in sight, Cristina is psychotic, Enrique is in a dead-end relationship (and still married), we don't know what Marco's agenda is, and Valentin and Victor were both non-starters.

So I'm curious to see if the show brings in any new characters in S4.




I agree that the best ending would be Alberto and Patricia working together -- it would be a nice way to bring the show full circle from the S1 premiere (when Patricia felt unfairly shut out by their father) and a way to signal that the mistakes of the previous generation (the vicious fighting between Rafael and his siblings) would not be repeated by this new generation.




You know, pretty much everything on the show makes sense to me except for the Patricia/Enrique redux. I really need the writers to explain that a bit better next season, because I cannot understand why we are back here again.